i see the light!... erm actually, no i don't help!

David Aiketgate;5165 wrote: We got Osram nightbreaker +90% bulbs. They are loads better than the standard bulbs, and they are legal!:snow:

I keep forgetting to buy these as they seem to be one of the best legal bulbs about. Am I right in thinking these are the ones you mean: http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H1-Osram-Night-Breaker-12v-55w-90-bulbs-pair-NEW.html

Thanks for the reminder David! :thumbsup:

Yves Adele Harlow;5186 wrote: I keep forgetting to buy these as they seem to be one of the best legal bulbs about. Am I right in thinking these are the ones you mean: http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H1-Osram-Night-Breaker-12v-55w-90-bulbs-pair-NEW.html

Thanks for the reminder David! :thumbsup:

Those are the ones. Just double check that they are H1s in your car.
Typically, MGR sometimes fitted different bulbs when they felt like it. H7 from memory.

Mine (mk2 F) are H1 for both dip and main.

Contrary to some statements made on this thread HID lighting systems are legal.
Some kits are suitable only for dipped beams and others are approved for use on main beam.
Main thing is to check that the kit you are after is DOT Approved, usually stamped on the ballast label. Talk to your supplier about this. If in doubt do not buy, there are some cowboys out there.

Mike

""Hi,

I e mailed autobulbs direct to ask them about the legalities of fitting HID kit and had a very quick response back from them.


Here is there reply.

Cheers

Jlo


'You are quite right, to be legal you need to have a self levelling system
and headlight washers. However although technically these aren't road legal
they usually still go through an MOT as the light pattern is correct. Also
if need be these can be removed in no more than 5 minutes (literally) and
you can put your standard bulbs back in.

It isn't road legal but we have not heard of anyone having any problems with
them. Hope this helps.'

i'm sure as stated above you must have headlight washers (high pressure!) and self leveling lights for these to be totally legal

KUON;5258 wrote: Contrary to some statements made on this thread HID lighting systems are legal.
Some kits are suitable only for dipped beams and others are approved for use on main beam.
Main thing is to check that the kit you are after is DOT Approved, usually stamped on the ballast label. Talk to your supplier about this. If in doubt do not buy, there are some cowboys out there.

Mike

What do you base that statement on, as I have seen a letter from the DOT saying that they don't consider retro fit HIDs legal unless they are type approved for the car (as a whole healdlamp unit), and are fitted with self levelling and washers.

phil-hex;5261 wrote: i'm sure as stated above you must have headlight washers (high pressure!) and self leveling lights for these to be totally legal

It's worse than that, I'm pretty sure it is actually illegal to sell them.

heres the full official bit.......

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

CJJ;5262 wrote: What do you base that statement on, as I have seen a letter from the DOT saying that they don't consider retro fit HIDs legal unless they are type approved for the car (as a whole healdlamp unit), and are fitted with self levelling and washers.

OK!
I give in.

Mike:confused:

Here it is http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

The technical problem with HID replacement bulbs are that the focal point is different to a filament bulb like halogens. If you fit them to a lamp designed for halogen lamps then you can never get the same beam pattern.

okayyy, the lights are very clean but seem to have condensation??? on them which may not be helping

obviously i don't go fast when i cant see where i'm going, but on back roads where i could comfortably do 60 in the pitch black in my audi (and evan the tic-tac-tin) i'm struggling to do 40

thoes 90% brighter bulbs may be the answer but lord knows i can't afford them!

beat you :whistle: for once

KUON;5265 wrote: OK!
I give in.

Mike:confused:

Don't be like that. We are just pointing out that there could be a problem. A lot of people assume they are legal and it just needs pointing out that there is legislation that they are not.

It is up to individuals to make the decision on what they do with their car, but they need to see all the relevant info.