MG T-Bar Quiz

I found it dear Ted, dear Ted, dear Ted. I found it dear Ted, but it's was called the Used Car, Used Car :bang:

Got to stop that :slapme:

Nice one Ted and a very interesting read too. The info can be found over on old classic car, click here.



Yes the price of the 1933 (then five years old) MG Midget J2 was ...... £69 at Mitre Motors of Streatham.

As an investment not too bad. In 2009 this J2


sold at auction for just over £20,000


This 1933 J2 with coachwork by Carbodies


At the same auction this one sold for just under £34,000

The article referred to above also has a bit on car radios advertised at the time. The 6 valve radio pictured here cost £12:12



Think I would have saved my money and gone for the nine year old Bentley 6.5 Litre Foursome Coupe, taxed for only £55.




or for just 39 guineas, the 100mph, 1933 Morgan JAP Super Sports.

Question is simple really. Name the famous MG link

she drove one around brooklands

That's a good start, but there is quite a bit more to the story :yesnod: Can you expand a little?

She set up a women's race around Brooklands to prove that women drivers were as good as male.

Set up in more ways than one..

The result of the race was fixed.

10 MGs were found for the event and Princes Imeretinsky "won"

Well done cj that's the link I was after. :yesnod:

Barbara Cartland and the ‘Greatest Motor Racing hoax’. The Ladies Handicap Race at Brooklands, 24 November 1931.

Women racing drivers in the 20’s and 30’s received lots of attention. Even the least glamorous were often described as “ravishing”. Their popularity, however, was looked upon with envy by some women, who longed to be like them and were envious of their celebrity status.”

The idea of the race all started at one of Barbara Cartland’s parties when a male racing driver brought up the subject of lady drivers, saying that they couldn’t drive. Barbara reckoned that women could drive as well as men, and to prove her point would put on the first women’s race at Brooklands. She asked many of her friends to compete; they were not really racing ladies, although she did get two to enter.



Hon Mrs Joan Chetwynd, who had set a record in a Lea Francis in the 1929 Six Sports Car race, with an average speed of 82.98mph.




The other was Paddy Naismith, who regularly raced her boyfriend’s supercharged Salmson.


Cecil Kimber, always on the lookout for a good excuse to publicise his cars, provided the MGs, which were a selection of various C-types and M-types. Some of the ladies had male mechanics and it is assumed these were probably the MG drivers who had brought the cars down that morning.

Barbara had Lord de Clifford as her mechanic, who told her to “push this and pull that” to enable her to get round! Barbara had been in touch with all of the newspapers, and had arranged for British Movietone News to film the whole event. Only The Motor and the Daily Express turned up for the press and wrote up the event afterwards.


The two racing driver are easy to spot as they are the only ones in flat shoes, overalls and wearing leather crash helmets.

The ‘race’ itself was a bit of a farce. It was ‘shot’ several times by the newsreel cameramen and Barbara Cartland announced over the microphone that they were there to prove that women drivers were every bit as good as men. It was then decided that more still photographs should be taken of the competitors before they got into their MGs and drove off to the Railway Straight, where they were again filmed lining up on the starting grid.
The handful of onlookers, who happened to be there, were rather puzzled that there didn’t seem to be any effort to handicap the cars if it was meant to be a proper women’s handicap, particularly as three of the MG’s, including the one driven by the Hon. Mrs Joan Chetwynd, were supercharged. :whistle:

They were even more surprised when the starter’s flag fell and all the cars, with the exception of one, which stalled because its handbrake was still on, sped down the finishing straight and according to The Motor “they tore off the mark, crossing and recrossing each other’s bows in about as dangerous a manner as it is possible to imagine”.
Princess Imeretinshy managed to spin her car, which she described as “a delicious thrill”. After a lap or two it was all over, with Paddy Naismith coming in first.

However, for the film crew the finish was not very spectacular, so a staged finish was run, with the cars starting from the far end of the Railway Straight; this produced a close finish, with Princess Imeretinsky, who sat on the tail of her C-type and said to the camera “I think we have proved that women can drive as well as men”.

The track was actually being repaired at the time, with large parts of the Members banking being dug up, so that the cars had to weave around the workmen! :omg:



The film crew then wanted film of a race in progress, so the cars went to the Byfleet Banking, where the cars were filmed on the move, with Mrs Chetwynd speeding round at 75mph, overtaking the slower drivers. Further filming was done of the cars in the pits, changing tyres and refuelling.

As a publicity stunt the event was quite a success and MG got still more exposure, but as a race and publicity for women drivers it was pretty much a failure, and many letters of complaint were sent to The Motor about it.

After the event Barbara arranged to get a ladies reading room set aside in the Club house; this is now commemorated in the Barbara Cartland Room at Brooklands, laid out in the period of the 1930s, with a 78rpm record on the gramophone, as well as many pictures of Barbara and her society and racing friends.

OK Easy question...

What engine is this? What MG was it fitted to? and what years was this MG in production for with that engine?

a very very dirty one...... someone please shut that bonnet quick

I think this is the O Series, or more specifically the O2 Series, in 2L turbo charged form as the distributor is not coming off the middle of the camshaft at right angles like it did on the original O Series 1750/2000 engines.

It was used in the MG Montego Turbo.

From the MGOC webiste:

Introduced 1985 - 1991 Number built – 7,276

Engine and performance details:
Brief technical specifications…
Engine: Cast iron block with alloy head.
No of cylinders: 4 in line.
Capacity: 1994cc
Bore: 8.0mm
Stroke: 89.00mm
Compression ratio: 8.5:1
Valve Gear: single overhead belt driven camshaft.
Carburation: Blow through single SU HIF44 (sealed).
Turbocharger: Garrett AiResearch T3 with intercooler.
Ignition: Lucas fully programmed electronic, microprocessor controlled.
Peak boost pressure: 10 psi
Max Power: 150 bhp @ 5100 rpm
Max Torque: 169 Ib/ft @ 3500 rpm
Transmission: 5 speed manual Honda close ratio.
Road wheels: Alloy TD rim 135 x 365 mm
Tyres: 190/65 HR 365 TD
Brakes: Front - ventilated 241 mm disc, Rear - self adjusting drum 203 mm
Steering: Power assisted rack and pinion. 2.3 turns lock to lock.
Suspension
Front - Macpherson strut with uprated springs. Gas filled dampers and 22mm anti-roll bar.
Rear - Semi-independent trailing arms with H beam, coil springs and gas filled dampers. Rear 14mm anti-roll bar.
Length: 4468 mm Width: 1710 mm Height: 1420 mm
Performance
Max speed: 126 mph. 0-60 mph, 7.3 secs., 50-70 mph, 6.6 secs. Standing quarter mile, 15.7 secs
Fuel consumption: 43 mpg at 56 mph.

Will have to disagree Martin, I reckon this is the S-Series engine as used in the 1.6l MG Maestro.


The 2.0l MG Maestro used the O-Series engine.

The engine was only used from 1984 through to 1988 when the K-Series replaced it.

You've got 2 out of three.

I'll give it to you Paul.

It is the S Series engine, and was used in the MG Maestro 1600, but the MG Maestro 1600 with the S Series engine was only in production in 1984 for a few months before it was replaced by the MG Maestro EFi which used the O Series Engine.

It's a rare beasty. According the the Maestro and Montego Owners Club only 2762 examples of the MG 1600 were produced with the S series engine.

There were probably twice that number with the R series engine. (The MGOC data is incorrect BTW) but very few of either type survive..

EDIT: The SU Carb and plenum chamber was a decoy. The underbonnet was actually twin twin choke Weber DNCF carbs with an aluminium air box on top. This air box was the cause of the MG 1600's notorious warm start problems (as it soaked up the heat, which radiated down into the carbs and evaporated the fuel in the float chambers!), and lead to the introduction of a device later used on the MG Turbos... The carburettor cooling fan...

This is an under bonnet shot of the older R series engine, but the S series is similar (Although on the S series the manifolds are on the back of the engine)... This doesn't have a carb cooling fan as it was introduced with the S series.

Thanks Chris. I was convinced it was a Maestro engine from the off and was so busy researching the engine I gave the production dates for the engine not the MG, sorry. :oops:

OK time for a new high flying question

A.)


B.)



Study the two pictures above and for each name;

i) the person.
ii) their MG car.

In addition

For A.) State what happened at court after they were caught speeding?

For B.) State what they had to give in return for the car and what was unusual about the car?