MG T-Bar Quiz

Replied by John and Sue on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #69937
Now that is a beautiful car!
When we went to Gaydon Heritage there was a display of MG and BL prototypes that never made it to production. Some great looking cars: very sad when you see what might have been.

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Replied by MG mad on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #69970
Sorry PQD, I was thinking of a different, simpler link. Think not about one particular Sherpa, or necessarily that particular TVR...

96 MGF 1.8i: Project Rally Car
98 MGF Abingdon" 285H cams, modded head etc
87 MG Metro: 1440cc fast road car
88 MG Metro Turbo
70 MG Midget: 1.9L VVC + supercharger + RWD = YEEHAA!
72 MGBGT: Project Speed 6 MGB
05 MG ZT-T 260: wife's sensible car
01 MG ZS 180: LHD, for driving around Germany in

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Replied by cjmillsnun on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #69971
Ahh well that's easy then.

The person is a Sherpa.

BL/Freight Rover had a van called the Sherpa that had the option of the Rover V8 engine. This was owned by the same company who owned the MG brand

This was also fitted to the MGB GT V8 and MG RV8 and was also used in some TVRs.
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Replied by PQD44 on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #69976
:nofight:



:bust: Still prefer my answer MG mad.

At least you could have chosen a TVR that had a V8 instead of the one off with a V12.


However the MG T-Bar Quiz does it again and proves you can find an MG link between almost any two random objects if you dig deep enough .... or climb high enough :lol:

Well done cjmillsnun, look forward to your next question.

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Replied by MG mad on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #69978
I was in actual fact thinking of the B series which went in to early TVRs and the Sherpa, didn't know the Sherpa got the Rover V8...

96 MGF 1.8i: Project Rally Car
98 MGF Abingdon" 285H cams, modded head etc
87 MG Metro: 1440cc fast road car
88 MG Metro Turbo
70 MG Midget: 1.9L VVC + supercharger + RWD = YEEHAA!
72 MGBGT: Project Speed 6 MGB
05 MG ZT-T 260: wife's sensible car
01 MG ZS 180: LHD, for driving around Germany in

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Replied by John and Sue on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70036
Ahh, the good old Sherpa van: a BMC J4 van with a bonnet! The DNA of the vehicles rooted in 1960.

Pure Leyland innovation!! :whistle:

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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70053
The Sherpa never got the V8, only the larger Freight Rover/LDV 400/Convoy got the V8 and it was never, to my knowledge, known as a Sherpa, that being the title of the smaller van that went onto be called the Freight Rover/LDV 200/Pilot. However, the Sherpa was made to fit on the production line of what was a car assembly line so hence the small proportions and the engine bay was never big enough to take a V8 although various owner conversions were done with significant body mods.

I spent ages trying to link the picture of the mountaineer to Bill Riley given that he was talking about building the SV Xpower at the old TVR plant. There is another small link between the MG and the Sherpa, though, and it may apply to the early TVRs but I doubt it, and that is the interior flush fitting door handle as used on the MGB and MG 1300 MkII.

The later LDV 200 with the Perkins Prima engines (essentially a diesel version of the O Series engine as used in the MG Montego) used the LT77 and later R380 gearboxes that were used in the RV8 and I assume on some TVR models using the Rover V8 engine before TVR started making their own engines.
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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70056
Thanks for that Martin, without checking the Sherpa Van history (after spending the time to link a man famed for climbing Everest to a V12 one off TVR and finding an MG link I'd had enough research for one day :whistle: ) I was leaving it to MG mad to clarify the position.

As no one got the answer MG mad was after I think he should set another question.

Having said that the MG T-Bar Quiz is helping me and others, hopefully, to learn more of the fascinating world of MG's :woohoo:

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Replied by MG mad on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70063

PQD44 wrote:
As no one got the answer MG mad was after I think he should set another question.


No fair... setting a question without having got the satisfaction of having got one right...
I had a look at wiki and it lists the "Freight Rover Sherpa K2/Freight Rover 200-300 1982–1989" as having got the V8 from the factory. I didn't know much about those when I set the question.

Right then... what is this (specifically, I know it's a cylinder head), and name 5 MG models it was fitted to.

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96 MGF 1.8i: Project Rally Car
98 MGF Abingdon" 285H cams, modded head etc
87 MG Metro: 1440cc fast road car
88 MG Metro Turbo
70 MG Midget: 1.9L VVC + supercharger + RWD = YEEHAA!
72 MGBGT: Project Speed 6 MGB
05 MG ZT-T 260: wife's sensible car
01 MG ZS 180: LHD, for driving around Germany in

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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70074
I think that is the XPAG head (not an A or B Series as the combustion chamber is the wrong shape.

The engine was used in the:]
MG Y-Type (YA/YB and Tourer)
MG T Series (TA/B/C/D/TF 1250) as well as the Arnolt and Lester specials


Ironically it was not fitted to the Magnette ZA but was used on the Wolseley 14/40 a year earlier, I think.

For the record, the Wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyland_Sherpa#Sherpa_K2_Series_1982-87) states that the V8 was used in a wide body variant of the K2 known as the 300 series and I should apologise as I should have stated the larger varioant was originally the 300 series becoming the 400 and later Convoy. However the Sherpa never got the V8 as the 300 was never referred to as the Sherpa name, afaik, was never applied to the 300, only to the original smaller vans.
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Replied by MG mad on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70078
Quite correct :) Except for one small detail, you've named one car which didn't get the XPAG...

Otherwise, over to you Martin.

96 MGF 1.8i: Project Rally Car
98 MGF Abingdon" 285H cams, modded head etc
87 MG Metro: 1440cc fast road car
88 MG Metro Turbo
70 MG Midget: 1.9L VVC + supercharger + RWD = YEEHAA!
72 MGBGT: Project Speed 6 MGB
05 MG ZT-T 260: wife's sensible car
01 MG ZS 180: LHD, for driving around Germany in

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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #70087
Link the three images to name the car!





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