Thin Yellow Pipe Connection
2002 TF 135.I've replaced HG etc and don't remember disconnecting this pipe - (photo). I can't see an appropriate connection.The other end is connected to a chamber (photo) which in turn is connected to a small box with electrical connections (sensor?).The chamber and small box are located immediately below the offside "boot" hinge adjacent the cambelt.Help Please - What is this for and where is the unknown connector?Thanks
by JRPilot
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I'm guessing here is that the take off for the exhaust flap valve which I believe is/was fitted to earlier TF's on the N/S exhaust outlet and was vacuum operated.
I can't quite make out the part number but if you type it into google it may come up with something helpful, I bought a bunch of new spares for my TF and spent a couple of hours doing it to find out what they were for.
I can't quite make out the part number but if you type it into google it may come up with something helpful, I bought a bunch of new spares for my TF and spent a couple of hours doing it to find out what they were for.
by deepfat
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This link might help http://mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/exhaust/TF_evc.htm
you don't want to leave the pipe open as air will be sucked into the manifold and muck up the mixture
you don't want to leave the pipe open as air will be sucked into the manifold and muck up the mixture
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Thanks for that.
I can’t find reference on UltimateMG.
The bore of the plastic pipe is only 1-2mm and the length/run suggests the connection should be to the inlet manifold.
The chamber would smooth the vacuum and a sensor would operate an electrical signal.
Possibly to the ECU.
The chamber sits in the engine bay on the shelf to which a tube is attached to its edge - does anyone else have this chamber and if so where is the long pipe connected?
Or is it now a redundant item?
Thanks again
I can’t find reference on UltimateMG.
The bore of the plastic pipe is only 1-2mm and the length/run suggests the connection should be to the inlet manifold.
The chamber would smooth the vacuum and a sensor would operate an electrical signal.
Possibly to the ECU.
The chamber sits in the engine bay on the shelf to which a tube is attached to its edge - does anyone else have this chamber and if so where is the long pipe connected?
Or is it now a redundant item?
Thanks again
by JRPilot
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Do feel free to ignore this but I'm following the same path as Deepfat. When I had my tf all this clutter had gone, but as with most changes done to cars there is invariably evidence left. I suspect what you have is the control bits to cut off the off side exhaust pipe during a particularly noisy rev range (rotten bastards). The inlet manifold creates a vacuum, which draws on the mysterious cylinder, the ECU decides when the exhaust pipe should be closed off, the cylinder opens, the vacuum acts on the exhaust control & shuts it off. If you have the actuator on the exhaust you must be one of a vanishingly small number & unless you want to return this facility bung up the manifold hole & bin the rest..
But do feel free to ignore.
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But do feel free to ignore.
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Fits in with all thanks.
Presumably the manifold has already had the opening stopped. But where would it have been?
I can’t see the exhaust “flap” or connection and both pipes blow from idle - so that gells.
I now only need to check that the manifold connection is blocked. So where is or would it have been - plastic inlet manifold?
Meanwhile thanks to all for help so far.
Presumably the manifold has already had the opening stopped. But where would it have been?
I can’t see the exhaust “flap” or connection and both pipes blow from idle - so that gells.
I now only need to check that the manifold connection is blocked. So where is or would it have been - plastic inlet manifold?
Meanwhile thanks to all for help so far.
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I'll stay silent on this, I simply can't remember where the vacuum port was. It was aluded to a few weeks ago when another part of the same system cropped if for recognition, if you track that post down & contact the member concerned they may well know.
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https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID018869
Found it - but still cant find the connection
It's supposedly on the Trophy - Thought mine was a standard 135 - no info saying anything else.
It's the :- Dual Mode Vacuum System - MGF Trophy and MG TF
Is it for an exhaust flap????????
Found it - but still cant find the connection
It's supposedly on the Trophy - Thought mine was a standard 135 - no info saying anything else.
It's the :- Dual Mode Vacuum System - MGF Trophy and MG TF
Is it for an exhaust flap????????
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Now there’s a thing, it looks like I’ve been peddling duff gen.
I’ve seen this diagram before but failed to understand what it’s about, a clear case of it doesn’t apply to me therefore why pursue it.
So shall we start afresh & find out what it does. You’ll have to lead on this as you’ve got part of the story & I would like to find out it’s function.
It’s a shame it’s not the exhaust valve control, that all made sense, now I’m happy to learn some new facet of the cars.
Sorry for leading you up the garden path!
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I’ve seen this diagram before but failed to understand what it’s about, a clear case of it doesn’t apply to me therefore why pursue it.
So shall we start afresh & find out what it does. You’ll have to lead on this as you’ve got part of the story & I would like to find out it’s function.
It’s a shame it’s not the exhaust valve control, that all made sense, now I’m happy to learn some new facet of the cars.
Sorry for leading you up the garden path!
M
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No probs - the plot thickens.
Perhaps Rimmers know - we'll see.
Perhaps Rimmers know - we'll see.
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Roger Parker (who knows a thing or two about Fs & TFs) says: "When fitting a new exhaust to a car originally fitted with an exhaust valve, it is important to leave the electrical connections to the exhaust control valve, otherwise the engine ECU can throw up a fault". The "exhaust control valve" is the part in your first picture.
It is possible your car has a modified or re-programmed ECU, but if that exhaust control valve was connected to the wiring loom when you first started working on the car, I would advise taking Saint Roger's advice and re-connect it electrically, but leave the pneumatics unconnected.
It is possible your car has a modified or re-programmed ECU, but if that exhaust control valve was connected to the wiring loom when you first started working on the car, I would advise taking Saint Roger's advice and re-connect it electrically, but leave the pneumatics unconnected.
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