Can a faulty fuel pressure regulator cause a no start
Can a faulty fuel pressure regulator cause a no start was created by djkeenan
Posted 1 year 2 months ago #204173Thinking an empty fuel rail caused the fuel pressure regulator to allow enough fuel into the car to start it. How can I confirm something is up with the fuel pressure regulator?
Engine is an MGF 1.8 MPI mems3 from 2001
Edit: should add the car starts for a second if I spray easy start spray into the intake.
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Posted 1 year 2 months ago #204176The FPR forms part of the fuel circuit; the pump lifts fuel into the fuel rail, which is common to all the injectors. The injectors meter the fuel when required by the ECU & the excess is returned to the tank via the regulator. In a closed system it doesn’t really matter where the regulator is, the pressure is dictated by the setting & that setting should remain constant.
I can’t see any reason for the regulator to work cold but not hot, the unit is little more than a spring acting on a diaphragm & when the pressure is reached the valve opens & fuel is returned to the tank.
This, at least is how I understand it & it’s this information on which I’m basing my adjustable system.
Any advance on this anyone?
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Posted 1 year 2 months ago #204181I hear what you're saying but maybe this isn't a problem caused by overheating but caused by a certain situation i.e. the fuel system doesn't work properly if its primed after the engine being run recently. Something is not resetting to default causing the fuel to not get to the engine?
What's frustrating is the fuel was spraying every time I cranked the injectors while outside of the engine. I can only presume something is different inside the piston heads. Although I would assume the pressure in the head is very much the same as outside the engine block when first cranking?
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Posted 1 year 2 months ago #204183There are few who have the single minded reputation with supply of parts, repair & restoration of our cars.
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Posted 1 year 2 months ago #204192I would be reluctant to close off the return feed as this would increase the line pressure to that capable of being supplied by the pump, that could easily damage the pump & injectors.
I would advocate caution
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Posted 1 year 2 months ago #204215Also tried disconnecting the Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor and the Idle Air Control (IAC) valve to put the engine into limp mode in case one of these was the problem. No fix. I did note the quiet, high pitched whine when an MG's engine is off (key removed), comes from the IAC valve. Does your engine do this?
Dunno what to do next as I don't think it's a compression problem as engine runs fine once its going. I'm gonna have a look for oil in the combustion cylinder and double check i'm still getting a strong spark when cranking a second time.
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Posted 6 months 2 weeks ago #206772Whereabouts is the car ?
2003 TF 135 sunstorm
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Posted 6 months 2 weeks ago #206773The problem may be an intermittent fault, which behaves itself when you test it, but not when you go to start it.
In that case it's probably a shitty wiring connection, that make connection when you disturb it, but breaks down when sitting normally. A crap HT lead can do this.
Has it had a PScan diagnosis?
I understand if you've had enough but Instead of banging it out to the scrappy, do as Not a number has suggested and offer it for sale as is.
Put a price on it and who knows one of the members here might take it on.
"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"
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Posted 6 months 2 weeks ago #206774If you give it a squeg of easy start & it coughed a bit, you have spark, if you drench yourself in fuel once the injector is out then that checks out.
That leaves timing, it’s surprising how far out timing can be & still an engine will run, it wants to run right up to the time when the valves hit the piston crown.
But will that engine start?
If easy start is washing around in the cylinder when a spark occurs it will pop & splutter until it is burned but is this enough to maintain if fuel isn’t being injected at the correct moment.
I’m sure you must have followed this train of thought, but one more run through might just trigger a fresh idea.
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