Engine bay cooling mods... options/ideas

Engine bay cooling mods... options/ideas was created by Diesel Destroyer

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116592
The F/TF engine bay design is flawed..

Not nearly enough air flow to allow for effective cooling.. So a few have looked at modding bits n bobs to aid in ari flow

Andy Watson has a rather nice rear :slapme: boot lid I mean.. with some custom air vents...

Ive opted for Koos air vents on the side... Making some DD scoops for under the car.. and some subtle mods to the boot lid vents..

The Koos vents smoothed in..




Some vents from another boot lid chopped into my boot lid






The underside will be modded to open the hole up as big as it can go without letting water into the boot..

So.. anyone else done anything else? Pics? Ideas? Comments? Thoughts? Haters? lol

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116594
Did you see the pictures cobber put up of the quad bike fans?

http://www.the-t-bar.com/en/forum/32-wanted/88391-engine-bay-fan?limitstart=0


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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116595
I was considering similar, with a high volume rad type fan mounted under the slats with a temp sensor. This would force hot air out of the top vents and draw cooler air in through the side vents and under the car. It might be possible to get a more efficient fan to replace the one on the side vent so that more air is drawn in there too. Let's face it, I doubt MG went out of the way to get the best fan they could.
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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116596
The quad bike fans are a cracking idea..

Bu t I might struggle to get them in... with the ITBs and the pipercross box..

Found these though.. which could be fitted into the bootlid itself..

40mm 20mm New Case Fan 12V 3pin Waterproof to IP55 3Pin Ball Brgs 313A*
Completed

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116597

cjj wrote: I was considering similar, with a high volume rad type fan mounted under the slats with a temp sensor. This would force hot air out of the top vents and draw cooler air in through the side vents and under the car. It might be possible to get a more efficient fan to replace the one on the side vent so that more air is drawn in there too. Let's face it, I doubt MG went out of the way to get the best fan they could.


Ive been looking at high CFM fans too.. I plan to fit a manual overide switch on my fan too...

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/product/8%22_Electric_Cooling_Fan_FAN8

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116598
Get proper fans, you're not cooling a Playstation.

I would measure up so that you have two fans, one totally covering each side of the vents and use proper car fans, or even motorbike ones which might be lower profile.
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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116601
I cant do the passenger side..





I hear what you are saying about car/bike fans at high level.. But running ITBs I might be limited for room.. so might have to fit fans into the boot lid..

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116607
I remember reading an article about computer case air flow, conducted by AMD. They found that it was best to suck the air out and not push it in at all, so it had good flow without turbulence.

Not sure if this applies here as much, but thought I would thow it out there.

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116616

Diesel Destroyer wrote: The quad bike fans are a cracking idea..

Bu t I might struggle to get them in... with the ITBs and the pipercross box..

Found these though.. which could be fitted into the bootlid itself..

40mm 20mm New Case Fan 12V 3pin Waterproof to IP55 3Pin Ball Brgs 313A*
Completed


Even from a PC cooling standpoint 40mm fans are only used when absolutely necessary and they are stupidly noisy. 1U servers have to use them as there's no headroom for anything bigger. If you want real CFM then look at at least 80mm. Compare the CFM for one of these
80mm 25mm New Case Fan 24V Waterproof IP55 45CFM 4 Screws 3 Pin Ball Brgs 315a
Completed
versus 4 of the 40mm.

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116627
The reason I used those fans as extractor fans is to assist the heat extraction to minimise heat soak from the upper reaches of the engine bay after the engine is switched off. They work in conjunction with the standard fan.

The standard fan alone, blows a good deal of the air out under the car following the path of least resistance, after the engine is switched off, trapping stagnant hot air in the engine bay.
By blowing some of the air out from up high and creating a partial vacuum in the upper reaches of the engine bay, I'm encouraging the cool air drawn in by the standard fan to better displace the stagnant hot air from the top of the engine bay, rather than just spilling most of the cool air out the bottom of the engine bay.

Noise isn't an issue, you don't notice any sound from them over the standard fan. You do however notice a lot more heat coming out of the vent when hold your hand over it. (hardly a scientific precision method of measurement, I know!) They bolt to the engine cover grill and are removed with it, to gain access to the engine.

DD those fans in your link link here look pretty much like what I've used.

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #116630

andy1970h wrote:

Diesel Destroyer wrote: The quad bike fans are a cracking idea..

Bu t I might struggle to get them in... with the ITBs and the pipercross box..

Found these though.. which could be fitted into the bootlid itself..

40mm 20mm New Case Fan 12V 3pin Waterproof to IP55 3Pin Ball Brgs 313A*
Completed


Even from a PC cooling standpoint 40mm fans are only used when absolutely necessary and they are stupidly noisy. 1U servers have to use them as there's no headroom for anything bigger. If you want real CFM then look at at least 80mm. Compare the CFM for one of these
80mm 25mm New Case Fan 24V Waterproof IP55 45CFM 4 Screws 3 Pin Ball Brgs 315a
Completed
versus 4 of the 40mm.


Its a bit steep that eBay link

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