Split cooling pipe 'plastic' bit

Split cooling pipe 'plastic' bit was created by Acuario

Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114179
Minor disaster today :( A loud bang and a lot of steam.

After a trip on the pickup lorry to the workshop and opening up the engine cover I discovered that the plastic 'T' that connects 4 cooland pipes together (located just by the air filter cover) had decided to break (well, it's a 'T' with a 4th leg) and I had dumped all my coolant onto the road.

I have no idea what the availability of one of these would be so I made one out of 15mm copper tube and a bit of 3/8" air conditioning refrigerant pipe - all brazed together rather than soft soldered. Job done although it seems a touch smaller in diameter so I'm thinking of making another one from a 20mm brass T and brazing the 4th pipe (again with the aircon tube which seems about the right size).

Is this a common failure? Looking at the plastic bit it looks like it isn't too strong and I'm suspecting it may have had a previous crack although there weren't any signs of leaks before hand.

The engine did get hot today while stuck in a queue - I'm suspecting it hadn't been properly bled as the heater (the couple of times I've tried it) takes a long time to work.

I have tested both the engine compartment fan and the radiator fans so I know they all work. I'm thinking of at least testing the coolant sensor just in case - a job for tomorrow or the weekend.
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Replied by Mal7921 on topic Split cooling pipe 'plastic' bit

Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114191
Usually that pipe fails because of a restrictor that works loose and blocks the flow. If you have made a replacement that may well be better, it would be worth looking up the 'autopsy' thread and find out if the restrictor can be made permeant in your design.

Who knows, if the price is right you may get some customers....
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Replied by Rich in Vancouver on topic Split cooling pipe 'plastic' bit

Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114200
Is this the "4-way connector" that fits in the pipes from the coolant bottle? Part #7 HERE
(Likely if your car has a PRT)
If so the part is No Longer Available.
If you do decide to make up some extras with the proper size tube I would be interested as that is the only part I am short for doing a PRT conversion on my MGF.
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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114209
we are finding that the plastic bits on the cooling system are start to age on these cars,we see a few thermostate housing that have cracked these days,its age im afraid
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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114212
http://www.the-t-bar.com/en/forum/9-mgf-tf-pitstop/87921-coolant-hose-split-an-autopsy-and-shock-discovery?start=60#107238. Have a read of this

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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114214
Yes, Part #7 is the one that broke. I'm going to make one today so I'll post a picture of it later.
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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114219

Acuario wrote: Yes, Part #7 is the one that broke. I'm going to make one today so I'll post a picture of it later.


That'll be interesting. :yesnod:

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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114221
we have found a few therostate housing have broken off on the bit that sit inside where the water pump is.
I think heat over the years has taken its toll on some cars.
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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114222

Leigh Ping wrote:

Acuario wrote: Yes, Part #7 is the one that broke. I'm going to make one today so I'll post a picture of it later.


That'll be interesting. :yesnod:


Get ready for an influx of. "Can you make me one" or you could do a full set of metal connectors to replace the lot of plastic ones and sell in a set! You clever so and so :)

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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114283
Here are the photos -
Version 1 - 15mm copper pipe - a bit too narrow but it was quick to make and got me home.
Version 2 with the original, complete with restriction (does it really need this??) - now fitted and working :-)

Yes it's PRT and, (lucky?) has the Lucas electronics - I read that these were more reliable but at roughly the same time as the PRT was introduced it was changed and the replacement is less reliable.



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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114354
You're going to make yourself way too popular with the ability to make things like this. Especially with our coolant systems and some parts no longer being made. Great job. Keep us posted on how they hold up would you? :broon:
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Posted 11 years 7 months ago #114374
Ooooh I might get some copper pipe....

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