280mm rear disc conversion.

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Posted 12 years 7 months ago #50931

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Posted 12 years 7 months ago #50932
This conversion was done in Feb 2010.

I ran the brakes for over a year and was extremely pleased with the braking advantage that it gave.

However, due to the extra heat generated, or the crap Rover calipers, the discs started to warp.

I have now gone back to standard but I am toying with 304mm vented discs and 4 pot calipers on the back.

I will update if I ever do this.
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Posted 12 years 7 months ago #50935
Have you noticably missed that amazing 33% improvement at all?

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Posted 12 years 7 months ago #50936
Oh yes.

Which is why I want better.

The coversion was good, but the weak point was using the old standard calipers which aren't brilliant and don't age well. The brake distribution, even between the 2 pads on the same caliper is crap. This is a downside of single pot calipers.
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Posted 12 years 7 months ago #50950
Wow shame it didn't last

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Posted 12 years 7 months ago #50958

cjj wrote: Oh yes.

Which is why I want better.

The coversion was good, but the weak point was using the old standard calipers which aren't brilliant and don't age well. The brake distribution, even between the 2 pads on the same caliper is crap. This is a downside of single pot calipers.


When you think about it, those rear "crap" callipers started life in 1984 on the rear of the Rover 800 stirling :rant: Yet more of the MGR parts bin special :slapme:

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Replied by Rich in Vancouver on topic Re: 280mm rear disc conversion.

Posted 12 years 7 months ago #51071
Did you ever try popping on a 15" wheel to see what the clearance was like?

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Posted 12 years 3 months ago #70568
The only warping on discs I have ever experienced has been due to the disc design/material but I suppose if you pressurise it - in the extreme - on one side only, something's got to give. I am interested in fitting 280s to my car (old 1.8i) - is there any way to improve the 'slide-ability' of the existing caliper?
Also, I have bought a pair of 160 four-pots on fleabay - could you tell me what mods are needed (got 16s)? Does it need a m/cyl change?
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Posted 12 years 3 months ago #70578
:-? Wouldnt a bigger disc, disperse the heat more, and would a vented disc be better?
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Posted 12 years 3 months ago #70583

Edunit wrote: Also, I have bought a pair of 160 four-pots on fleabay - could you tell me what mods are needed (got 16s)? Does it need a m/cyl change?


I don't know which 16" wheels you have, but IIRC you need to have either

Trophy 160 wheels
MG TF 11 Spokes
Swedish wheels
Abingdon Wheels (with a small spacer)
Multispokes

otherwise the calipers won't fit.

Apart from that it's a straight swap. Nothing required except callipers, pads and discs.
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Posted 12 years 3 months ago #70622

Edunit wrote: The only warping on discs I have ever experienced has been due to the disc design/material but I suppose if you pressurise it - in the extreme - on one side only, something's got to give. I am interested in fitting 280s to my car (old 1.8i) - is there any way to improve the 'slide-ability' of the existing caliper?
Also, I have bought a pair of 160 four-pots on fleabay - could you tell me what mods are needed (got 16s)? Does it need a m/cyl change?


The best and only real way to optimise the rear brake calipers is to keep them maintained 100% with regular stripdown and cleaning.

As far as I know the master cylinder is the same whether you have standard calipers or APs.
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Posted 12 years 3 months ago #70624

GOLDIE wrote: :-? Wouldnt a bigger disc, disperse the heat more, and would a vented disc be better?


Apparently not. The vented discs disperse heat better, but also resist warping due to the nature of their construction.
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