David's story - A poignant reminder.
David Holmes, 38, was killed in a head-on collision on the A47 at Honingham near Norwich in June last year whilst riding at 97 m/ph. His final few moments were captured on film as he was wearing a camera on his helmet.
His mother, Brenda Holmes, has now made the decision to release the footage through Norfolk Police in order raise awareness of road safety.
The driver of the Renault involved in the collision admitted to police he had not seen the motorbike or the car behind him as he turned off the junction. He was prosecuted in April.
Norfolk Police admitted it is a risky decision to release the "shocking" footage but believe it is necessary to get people to talk about road safety and allow the Holmes' family to "take something positive out of this tragic event".
Warning: Some viewers may find the footage distressing
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RIP David.
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150141I passed on the viewing.
It will be all right in the end. If it isn't all right yet, then it is not yet the end..
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I know it's hypothetical but what if a little kiddie had run out in front of the biker when he was doing almost 100mph? I suppose we all learn from this that speed does kill. I can't begin to imagine what the car driver is going through.
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150154Vale, David.
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150155He charitably booked me at 85, which cost me the 3 points and fine. I was touching 95 in truth.
The point of this ramble is this: what he said as I was the naughty boy in the back of his Volvo: "powerful car, well maintained, excellent brakes, experienced driver who really should know better..... Now, imagine a novice driver, say in an old 1 litre Fiesta, not yet experienced in judging speed and distance of oncoming traffic pulled out of lane 2 into lane 3 in front of you, assuming that you would be doing 70..."
Made me think, I can tell you.
The point about the kiddie running out is very well made too.
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Gave myself a scare or two some years back on a couple of FZRs. Hitting over the ton as I passed a Readymix lorry & realised he probably didn't know I was there. Booting down a country road at harvest time, tractors in & out of fields.
Terrible tragedy for all involved in this case, and I hope his mother's decision to release the footage prevents someone else from going through the same.
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150173I always took care when riding, but the superior handling on a fully balanced machine and powerful braking lulls you into a false sense of security. I wasn't a speed merchant but would push it when I thought it was safe to do but if you do enough miles on the roads today the odds are you will make contact with someone who pulls out in front of you; as I did.
Bikes don't mix with other road uses very well and we will always have biker fatalities "exceeding the speed limit or not" I would love to have another bike but the rest of my family say no as they also suffer the worry and pain. My heart goes out to the poor guys mum who is trying to to make a difference by posting the video and maybe save a life!
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150175I have noticed that my MGF's almost seem invisible to many other road users. Have lost count already of the times that others have pulled out without seemingly seen the MGF. I know my horns work as they get regular use due to this.
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150180Assigning blame is pointless, but learning valuable lessons about inappropriate speed and lack of awareness of other road users is something worthwhile, imho.
The only road speed limit sign visible in the video is a 40mph. We know he was doing 97
We don't know if David's bike had the headlight on. We don't know if the driver saw him but presumed he was going slower.
We don't know what the actual limit was at that junction, but single carriageway roads have a maximum of 60mph.
I, personally, have pulled out in front of another car, presuming their speed to be within the posted limit when they were actually exceeding it by 33%. Fortunately for both of us we avoided colliding. I learned a valuable lesson about presumption that day. Whether the other driver learned anything I don't know.
What I do see almost every time I'm driving is motorbike riders flouting speed limits, especially in 30 and 40 zones; much fewer percentages of car drivers offending in those zones, To a certain extent, less car drivers because they generally have to follow the traffic in front where bike riders can zip in and out of the traffic.
An indisputable fact is that in a collision between a motorbike and a car, however caused, it's the bike rider who almost always will come off worst.
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Posted 10 years 2 months ago #150182Then you would think that bikers would be aware of this and stop zipping through traffic at speed and slow down a little.
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