Stupid question

Stupid question was created by Tigger

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22189
Hi All

Can someone confirm if the front wheel bearings are included in the MOT test.

Had the TF MOT'd at the end of Feb and had to have new track rod ends to pass. No problem was quite pleased there were nothing else.

Today i went out to grease the suspension so jacked the car up and took the driver's side front wheel off to ease access. That's when i noticed that the bearing was growling when i turned the wheel and there was a noticable rocking top to bottom so obviously the bearing is shot.

Glad i spotted it as i'm off to London next week - 70mph bearing failure doesn't bear thinking about, but shouldn't it have been picked up at the test? :shrug:


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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22192
yes, should have been picked up really.

David
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Replied by adamelphick on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22201
Agreed - wheel bearing play is part of the MOT as I have failed on that in past cars!

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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22207

Tigger wrote: Hi All

Can someone confirm if the front wheel bearings are included in the MOT test.

Had the TF MOT'd at the end of Feb and had to have new track rod ends to pass. No problem was quite pleased there were nothing else.

Today i went out to grease the suspension so jacked the car up and took the driver's side front wheel off to ease access. That's when i noticed that the bearing was growling when i turned the wheel and there was a noticable rocking top to bottom so obviously the bearing is shot.

Glad i spotted it as i'm off to London next week - 70mph bearing failure doesn't bear thinking about, but shouldn't it have been picked up at the test? :shrug:


Yes it should have failed the MoT with that amount of play, especially as it was growling when you turn the wheel. Madmax had a simmilar problem (and Clive) on his 2006 TF on a rear, Russell did the work and found that the drive flange was "loose" because the big nut that holds it on had not been spiked properley and had come undone a bit. the outer shell of the bearing had been turning in the drive flange, which also needed replacing. B&G sell them for £96 each but check they are ok before getting one, the bearing sets are about £50 each. Clive has done a "how to" in his guides. Roger Parker at the MGOC also did one a short while ago. :ohmy: :dry:

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Replied by Tigger on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22213
Thanks for the replies - guess it's yet another garage to cross off the list. Thing that amazes me is that when they did the track rod end they had to put the wheel back on but didn't notice it was rocking.

Hub nut is well and truly tight, in fact i can't get it to move at all, having opened up the crimping, even with an extension bar, so will have to to book it in somewhere. I've now got a recommendation from a retired mechanic so will let you know how we get on.


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Replied by adamelphick on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22216

Tigger wrote: Thanks for the replies - guess it's yet another garage to cross off the list. Thing that amazes me is that when they did the track rod end they had to put the wheel back on but didn't notice it was rocking.

Hub nut is well and truly tight, in fact i can't get it to move at all, having opened up the crimping, even with an extension bar, so will have to to book it in somewhere. I've now got a recommendation from a retired mechanic so will let you know how we get on.


If you are goign to get the bearing replaced make sure it's a place that is experienced in the Metro/MGF type flange and bearings - they are EXTREMELY TIGHT in the flange and even my 'Mini Centre' who has done lots of metros said their press almost broke when they did Megs ones!

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Replied by Tigger on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22217

If you are goign to get the bearing replaced make sure it's a place that is experienced in the Metro/MGF type flange and bearings - they are EXTREMELY TIGHT in the flange and even my 'Mini Centre' who has done lots of metros said their press almost broke when they did Megs ones!


I had heard about the fit being tight. I might get on to MGFNTFBITZ and just get a replacement hub. Need the TF Friday so can't risk having it in bits in a garage with them unable to sort it.


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Replied by mgfmad on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22226
To be fair the the garage, maybe the bearing had failed suddenly and was within acceptable limits during the MOT test:)

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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22274

mgfmad wrote: To be fair the the garage, maybe the bearing had failed suddenly and was within acceptable limits during the MOT test:)


I am too surprised they missed it, and agree that i could have been ok when they did the test. if it is "grumbling" now it could have suddely gone dry. :shrug:

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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: Stupid question

Posted 13 years 8 months ago #22276

Tigger wrote: Thanks for the replies - guess it's yet another garage to cross off the list. Thing that amazes me is that when they did the track rod end they had to put the wheel back on but didn't notice it was rocking.

Hub nut is well and truly tight, in fact i can't get it to move at all, having opened up the crimping, even with an extension bar, so will have to to book it in somewhere. I've now got a recommendation from a retired mechanic so will let you know how we get on.


That big nut is (or should be) tightened down to 150 lbs/ft torque before it is spiked, you need a good socket and a long bar, possibly with a metre of tube on it and it will come undone. the bearings are a tight fit in the drive flange and hub as you can see in the "how to" that Clive (CJJ) has in his guides. please keep us up to date, and good luck :lol: :whistle:

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