Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic? was created by Voulgaris

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183507
Hi,
I have an MGF 2002 steptronic. I constantly have oil temps above 120C and in the summer easily it can reach 150C.
I am thinking of adding an oil cooler from a 160 model. Do you know if due to the steptronic there is a constrain to add this oil cooler?

Thanks for your answers!
Christopher

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183508
Hi.
:welcome2:

The fitted oil temperature gauge is notoriously innacurate. You are most certainly NOT getting those levels of high oil temperature. So there's no need to fit an oil cooler.

If you get your oil temperature accurately measured by inserting a sensor down the filler tube(garages often have this equipment) I'm sure you'll find it is much lower.

My fitted gauge was over-reading by 35 degrees! You can accept this over reading or, as I have done, insert a resistance into the feed to the gauge to make it read more accurately.:broon:

David
:shrug:

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Replied by Cobber on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183510
I concur with our learned friend David..................... the oil temp gauge is about as handy as a spare prick at a wedding! :bust:

"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"

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Replied by BruceTF135 on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183512

David Aiketgate wrote: Hi.
:welcome2:

The fitted oil temperature gauge is notoriously innacurate. You are most certainly NOT getting those levels of high oil temperature. So there's no need to fit an oil cooler.

If you get your oil temperature accurately measured by inserting a sensor down the filler tube(garages often have this equipment) I'm sure you'll find it is much lower.

My fitted gauge was over-reading by 35 degrees! You can accept this over reading or, as I have done, insert a resistance into the feed to the gauge to make it read more accurately.:broon:


This is very interesting, David. I had no idea that the oil temperature guage was unreliable. Mine usually reads less than 120 once warm but creeps up a bit to over 120 on a lengthy motorway drive.

Can you provide more information on inserting a resistance into the guage feed, please?

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Replied by John and Sue on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183518
. infra red temperature indicator. This one is about 12 quid from Mano Mano though you can pay more. I have had an RS one for yonks. The Missis uses it to check the temp of her home made jam. Versatile.

Dead handy. I pinged the sump pan when up to temperature and our gauge was spot on. Also useful for stuff like checking brake disc temps etc if you suspect a bind.

It will be all right in the end. If it isn't all right yet, then it is not yet the end..

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Replied by talkingcars on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183520
The steptronic has a gear box fluid cooler in front of the coolant rad.


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Replied by Voulgaris on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183521
Thanks for the input David. As I have an OBD2 wifi module I cannot read the Engine oil temp. Have you managed to read it?

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Replied by Voulgaris on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183522
Out of the box thinking!!! For sure I will try it. Thanks!!!!

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Replied by Voulgaris on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183524

John and Sue wrote: .

infra red temperature indicator. This one is about 12 quid from Mano Mano though you can pay more. I have had an RS one for yonks. The Missis uses it to check the temp of her home made jam. Versatile.

Dead handy. I pinged the sump pan when up to temperature and our gauge was spot on. Also useful for stuff like checking brake disc temps etc if you suspect a bind.


Out of the box thinking!!! For sure I will try it. Thanks!!!!

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Replied by John and Sue on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183525
If memory serves, optimum oil temp is between 95 and 115 Celsius. Short bursts above are ok. Water temp is around 85 degrees, so a good heat balance is achieved with a liquid to liquid cooler.

White metal (Babbit metal more correctly, after the inventing metallurgist) as used in big end and main bearings plated overlay gets in distress at >120 degrees so a major function of oil is carrying heat away. 80% cooling and 20% lube is the thumb rule.

Well, it is for steam turbines anyway. Been told it applies to all white metal applications.

It will be all right in the end. If it isn't all right yet, then it is not yet the end..

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183530

Voulgaris wrote:

David Aiketgate wrote: Hi.
:welcome2:

The fitted oil temperature gauge is notoriously innacurate. You are most certainly NOT getting those levels of high oil temperature. So there's no need to fit an oil cooler.

If you get your oil temperature accurately measured by inserting a sensor down the filler tube(garages often have this equipment) I'm sure you'll find it is much lower.

My fitted gauge was over-reading by 35 degrees! You can accept this over reading or, as I have done, insert a resistance into the feed to the gauge to make it read more accurately.:broon:


Thanks for the input David. As I have an OBD2 wifi module I cannot read the Engine oil temp. Have you managed to read it?

ok took me a little time to find it but have a read of this:- Resistor in oil gauge feed

David
:shrug:

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Replied by mowog73 on topic Engine oil cooler for MFG steptronic?

Posted 6 years 9 months ago #183534

talkingcars wrote: The steptronic has a gear box fluid cooler in front of the coolant rad.


And here's a picture of it


I agree with others in that I would first suspect the temperature gauge and check it with an IR temperature guns.

[size=10pt]Mark[/size]
95 MGF

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