Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Replied by talkingcars on topic Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120571
Not sure how you'd get goods from the railway to the shop, even Romania banned horse and carts this year.


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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120572
Always worth remembering that everything that you buy in any shop was delivered by a truck and not by a railway engine. :yesnod:

Intermodal transport: rail for long distance container transport: road for local distribution needs work: at the moment it's a farce: it's easier and more efficient to pick up a container by road and deliver it than to rail it.

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Replied by Dave Baird on topic Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120573
I did say that I'd bring back full railways, John. And from railway to shop - low weight (up to 5 ton) trucks making local deliveries. Simple really.

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120575
Considering the average supermarket gets upwards of 10 artic loads a day, each carrying 40 trollies, that would be a lot of 5 tonne trucks carrying 8 trollies each.

My own depot can easily get 10 loads of building matials a day.....

and yesterday alone I delivered 14 tonnes of kerbs to a site at Gatwick airport, that would have taken 5 or 6 runs with a 5 tonne truck, more if it had been fitted with a crane capable of lifting more than 8 kerbs at a time.


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Replied by Dave Baird on topic Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120577
Yeah - just think of all those new driving jobs that would be made available. And if we restricted those deliveries to the night hours, they wouldn't be on the road during the day, either. Bliss.

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Replied by mogatrons on topic Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120592
I've encountered inconsiderate LGV drivers in the same proportion as car drivers .....



... the difference is an inconsiderate LGV driver has a much bigger impact on everyones day, and they're supposed to be professional drivers. .:coffee:


As for the on the spot fines, I consider it another stealth tax.

If they were serious about improving driving standards they'd empower the police to revoke your licence and your car on the spot for a transient period of say a fortnight for the equivalent of a 3 point offence. Much more of a deterrence I suspect, and not open to accusations of target driven revenue raising.

.... of course whatever 'new powers' are introduced, they're only as effective as the number of police on the road. ;)

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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120593
On the subject of railways, it's nice to see Stobart Rail on the Perth to Inverness line which runs alongside the A9 for miles - they are long trains and must represent 50 lorries (that are not on the A9). Intermodal transport in action!

Richard

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Replied by John and Sue on topic Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120598
Yep, old Eddie has been spearheading intermodal for ages: frustrated by what was on offer rail-wise, they bought into it themselves.

Also branching into air freight with the acquisition of Sarfend Airport.
Love 'em or not, at least they put their money into action.

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Replied by talkingcars on topic Should the Police be able to fine you on the spot?

Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120601

Dave Baird wrote: Yeah - just think of all those new driving jobs that would be made available. And if we restricted those deliveries to the night hours, they wouldn't be on the road during the day, either. Bliss.


Just hope one doesn't live next to a distribution depot with all those multiple night time movements, and folks living next to building sites where 3 or 4 concrete mixers turn up through the night to do the delivery of one daytime regular mixer............


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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120602
I'm all for use of rail and airfreight but they only work where there is sufficient infrastructure and can only carry so much.


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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120603

Dave Baird wrote: And if we restricted those deliveries to the night hours, they wouldn't be on the road during the day, either. Bliss.


and would you really want to work nights?
and I wouldn't be surprised if many of these new jobs are filled by people also doing a day job!

As a side point David - what do you do for a living?


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Posted 11 years 5 months ago #120610
Smaller trucks = more journeys = higher fuel costs = higher prices passed to the consumer.
A truck carrying 5 tonnes doesn't use a fifth the fuel of one carrying 25 tonnes.

Night shifts? I worked shifts in power plant for 25 years: a necessary evil for service industries.

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