In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question was created by rough luck

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17882
Are you ready for this...its has a touch of insanity

with vacum cleaners such as dyson's ever increasing there power by use of cyclones to boost the speeds and sucking

Is this power at a stage where we could use a 12v to 240v converter, to power a stripped down dyson to use as a supercharger???????????

after all the 12v ones previously useless are now starting to work, all be it not as well as the adds claim but never the less its coming

sooooooo your thoughts

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17883
I've seen a video of someone using a petrol leaf blower! It worked too, but you'd need a helluva lot of space to fit one!

David
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Replied by rough luck on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17886
by the time you strip it rite down and if I got one of those none stand up ones.....hmmm or what would happen if you linked two of the cyclone units in series,

would the power increase because the speed of the in put to the second unit would be faster after passing through the first cyclone

or

would it fade as its further from the motor

I know he has the motor patented, it might be why they haven't been made

or maybe coz it dont work....lol

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17890

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Replied by Adam-Mgtf on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17901
hmm i guess it would be possible, my knowledge of S/C is evan more limited than T/C mind

but my question would be how well the plastic blades would hold up to the fuel air mix? could the fuel distableise the plastic?

i've herd horror stories about ceramic turbo blades and what they can do when the disintegrate

the only answer to this question is probably to try it and see?

what with Chris's rolling road coming along shortly it might be possible to mount a K series engine on a TF/F rear subby and run it on the road to see what power its producing, you would be welcome to my old 1.4K out the ZR when the T-monster goes in :D could use it as a test bed jon, i know your mad enough to try!

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Replied by rough luck on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17903
Hmmmmmmmmmm test beds are for wusses I'll stick it on my car to try it....lol just hope I have a long enough cord to reach home...lol



OOoops I just bought another new bit, one of these:

http://www.wbo2.com/3b1/default.htm with an LA1 display

should be about £450 got fleabay bargin £200

I must be an idiot as I still aint 100% if its worth it

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 3 weeks ago #17904

rough luck wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmm test beds are for wusses I'll stick it on my car to try it....lol just hope I have a long enough cord to reach home...lol

That's the advantage of a petrol driven one.:lol: No lead!

David
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Replied by Adam-Mgtf on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 2 weeks ago #18082

rough luck wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmm test beds are for wusses I'll stick it on my car to try it....lol just hope I have a long enough cord to reach home...lol



OOoops I just bought another new bit, one of these:

http://www.wbo2.com/3b1/default.htm with an LA1 display

should be about £450 got fleabay bargin £200

I must be an idiot as I still aint 100% if its worth it


erm what the heck is that?! lol

adam

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Replied by rough luck on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 2 weeks ago #18084

adam-mgtf wrote:

rough luck wrote: Hmmmmmmmmmm test beds are for wusses I'll stick it on my car to try it....lol just hope I have a long enough cord to reach home...lol



OOoops I just bought another new bit, one of these:

http://www.wbo2.com/3b1/default.htm with an LA1 display

should be about £450 got fleabay bargin £200

I must be an idiot as I still aint 100% if its worth it


erm what the heck is that?! lol

adam



Right a normal lambda operates by only really giving 3 signals, these are that the engine is running lean, ok or rich, so the ecu in the case of mems unit adapt the fuel, unless its told otherwise by the sensors, i.e. cold starting

the wideband sensor can sense tiny changes in fueling down to 0.01 AFR (AIR FUEL RATIO) when used with an emerald this can then adapt your fuelling alot more accurately giving various results from showing you how to get more power or how to make it run more economically, or if your heavily modifying it can warn you when the engine is running dangerously lean

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Replied by Adam-Mgtf on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 2 weeks ago #18087
makes sence after your recent catastrophe

btw i've found someone selling Emeralds with all the kit for 600 quid

will almost defiantly get one for the ZR (putting the coilovers on hold for this reason)

i don't suppose you know if having the emerald lets you run electronic dials? like EGT Oil temp/pressure etc? or will everything still need to be hard wired to the engine?

adam

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Replied by cjj on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 2 weeks ago #18115
Unfortunately the typical vacuum cleaner draws anything from 1000W to 2400W at 240V

As Power = Voltage x current (in an ideal world - forgetting about power factor etc)

Current = Wattage / Voltage

So, for a 1kW unit, it will draw around 4 amps.

By using the Current formula above, we can see that current is inversely proportional to the voltage.

So, reducing 240V to 12V is by a factor of 20.

This means that the Current, to sustain the 1kW, will rise by a factor of 20.

So that is 20 x 4A

That is 80A

Now factor in the losses an inverter incurs and you will be looking nearer 90A

So, to run your Dyson as a supercharger, assuming it is only 1kW, you will be drawing more current than the alternator can provide.

Dohhhhhhh.
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Replied by rough luck on topic Re: In Keeping with my crazy head here's a question

Posted 14 years 2 weeks ago #18117
Hmmmm so what about a belt driven 240v geni

and would a doubled up cyclone increase the airflow output

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