MG TF locking features

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Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #30962
Hi
I need some help, please, determining the locking features of a just purchased 2003 MG TF 115.
The garage I purchased it from is adamant that it is functioning as intended, and I am disputing this
on the grounds that no manufacturer would release a model that functioned in the way that this does.
I have a key and a two button remote. The key locks/unlocks both doors individually but there is no central locking.
The remote locks/unlocks the driver’s door only. The remote activates/deactivates the alarm/immobiliser.
I would appreciate knowing if the car was manufactured with central locking and, if so, did it operate on either door, or driver’s door only.
Was the car supplied with remote control or was this fitted afterwards.
Either way it is my opinion that the remote should still operate on both doors. Any agreement, or otherwise, would be welcome.
Your comments will be much appreciated.

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Replied by PQD44 on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #30965
:blink: I have an MGF and the remote operates both doors. I would think that the remote should operate both doors. Someone will be able to confirm 100% very soon.
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Replied by Mal7921 on topic MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #30966

paul16442 wrote: Hi
I need some help, please, determining the locking features of a just purchased 2003 MG TF 115.


I don't think the 115 came with central locking as standard. It was the entry level car and I could be wrong but I'm sure it didn't have speakers in the T bar as standard either.
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Replied by Mal7921 on topic MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #30967
And with a little digging around on the tinterweb I find...

" The 115 model looks the same as all the others but a few basic toys are worth asking for when you buy. I had central locking put on for free which does not come in the basic package. Also the 115 does not have the speakers behind the seats and no interior alarm system. All these come as standard in the 1.8 models."

If yours has the alarm and is a genuine rover item, I suspect it may have been added as an option, however I would have expected central locking to also have also been added at the same time.
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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #30971
Yeah I can confirm that on a 1.6, either the remote should only arm/disarm the alarm, or if C/L is fitted the remote should lock/unlock both doors as well as operate the alarm.


Unless someone has bodged the job.

David
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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #30993

paul16442 wrote: Hi
I need some help, please, determining the locking features of a just purchased 2003 MG TF 115.
The garage I purchased it from is adamant that it is functioning as intended, and I am disputing this
on the grounds that no manufacturer would release a model that functioned in the way that this does.
I have a key and a two button remote. The key locks/unlocks both doors individually but there is no central locking.
The remote locks/unlocks the driver’s door only. The remote activates/deactivates the alarm/immobiliser.
I would appreciate knowing if the car was manufactured with central locking and, if so, did it operate on either door, or driver’s door only.
Was the car supplied with remote control or was this fitted afterwards.
Either way it is my opinion that the remote should still operate on both doors. Any agreement, or otherwise, would be welcome.
Your comments will be much appreciated.


If you can give me the VIN number i can try to check what was a standard car, i know they left some options off the 115 variant but didnt think that central locking was one of them. Did you say that you have a lock barrell on each door?? if you dont want to post your Vin on here, email me at [email protected] or PM me here. :yesnod:
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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #31036

paul16442 wrote: Hi
I need some help, please, determining the locking features of a just purchased 2003 MG TF 115.
The garage I purchased it from is adamant that it is functioning as intended, and I am disputing this
on the grounds that no manufacturer would release a model that functioned in the way that this does.
I have a key and a two button remote. The key locks/unlocks both doors individually but there is no central locking.
The remote locks/unlocks the driver’s door only. The remote activates/deactivates the alarm/immobiliser.
I would appreciate knowing if the car was manufactured with central locking and, if so, did it operate on either door, or driver’s door only.
Was the car supplied with remote control or was this fitted afterwards.
Either way it is my opinion that the remote should still operate on both doors. Any agreement, or otherwise, would be welcome.
Your comments will be much appreciated.


The TF115 was not fitted with central locking until model year 2004 :nonod: found this on another site :-

Up to and including model year 2004, the TF 115 came without remote central locking as standard. All the cabling and connectors are in place for central locking but the door latches do not contain the necessary motors and gears and the ecu does not have the central locking functions programmed. To fit central locking involves changing the door latches and, if necessary, re-programming the ecu.

Some points to note.
The 2004 model year production would have commenced mid 2003.

Does your car have a lock barrell on the passenger door ? if it has then the central locking has been retro fitted and may not have been set up correctly! ~ the main ECU has to be told that C/L has been fitted using the MGR testbook T4 programme.

You should have two keys and two remote fobs, please confirm this & have you got the EKA code Emergency Key Access Code (four digit number)

If you lock the car with the fob, then wait a minute and open the drivers door with the key, put the key in the ignition and start the car. if it starts the immobiliser is not working! if nothing happens, lock and unlock the car with the fob and start again. you can check the alarm function the same way. put hood down, lock with fob, wait 60 seconds, put your hand in the car and the alarm will go off.

Be very interested in your replies.

And a big welcome to the T Bar :woohoo:
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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #31042
Very helpful as always Bryan. :thumbsup: However i don't think the 115 had the internal movement sensor either.:shrug: So sticking your hand in the car with the top down wouldn't work.

David
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Replied by paul16442 on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #31047
Thanks to you all for taking the trouble to reply. I have emailed Bryan with the VIN. I am taking the car tomorrow to Mike Satur an MG specialist in South Yorkshire. I will also ask him his opinion.
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Replied by paul16442 on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #31048
Bryan

Email returned from address given

Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. The car has a barrel lock on the passenger side.

I have two keys and two remote fobs, but no EKA. The immobiliser functions as you describe. The

alarm does not appear to respond to movement but is activated when the door is opened.

The VIN is SARRDMBEB3D614212

Thanks

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #31054
As I thought the motion sensor is not fitted to the 115. :nonod:

To tell if the passenger actually has the central locking motor, it would be necessary to take the door card off and check the wiring to the lock. If I recall correctly the 115 standard lock looks the same externally, but doesn't have a motor in the casing.

David
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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: MG TF locking features

Posted 13 years 2 weeks ago #31110

David Aiketgate wrote: As I thought the motion sensor is not fitted to the 115. :nonod:

To tell if the passenger actually has the central locking motor, it would be necessary to take the door card off and check the wiring to the lock. If I recall correctly the 115 standard lock looks the same externally, but doesn't have a motor in the casing.


That is correct, they even have the same part number!!! :omg:

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