Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Replied by Cobber on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 5 days ago #208921Having said that, your car probably has the later Pektron system which isn't anywhere near as bad as the earlier Lucas 5AS system is at causing flat batteries.
I don't think the door latching would've been my first port a call, I would suspect the door switches themselves, or the wiring loom that runs up to the boot by the boot hinge, this is a first stop check for a lot strange electrical behavior concerning our cars.
Alarms and immobiliser systems can play up for various strange reasons, when I bought my old Ford Falcon ute, it wasn't a runner and had been sitting for @ 2 1/2 yrs, t he plumber that owned it couldn't start it no matter what he tried, so he offered it up for sale, I went around to have a look and noticed that the interior light in the cab wasn't working, I immediately made him a low offer.... which he accepted out of frustration. I then replaced the dirty interior light fuse and the ute started first turn of the key....leaving, the
plumber had a very sick look on his face.
Now I knew how Fords Smartlock immobiliser system works, it uses the door light switches to tell it if the doors are open and if there is something is outside of any of it's parameters it won't let the engine start! I have since bypassed the Smartlock nonsense as it is a constant cause of woes, and not worth the pain and suffering.... you know when they feel the need to call something smart......it isn't!
The whole concept of an immobiliser that is tripped by something as silly as a dodgy interior light is utterly stupid!
Your problem will be as equally silly.
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Replied by sludge on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208946I can give a little update; went out and bought a battery charger. Figured it was a good investment anyway. Removed the battery from the car, hooked the charger up and surprisingly, the charger let me know the battery was already fully charged.
I double checked the connectors, and the booklet to make sure I hadn't got anything mixed up and again confirmed that the battery is fully charged - strange.
That then leaves me with even more confusion.
Yesterday when I was trying things, I noticed that with the key turned to full ignition, I was getting a very faint oil light shining red but nothing else. Today that is no longer the case.
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Replied by talkingcars on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208948I think the door open light only refers to the boot, it does on my mk1 MGF.
That means that the system thinks the boot is open so turns on the boot light.
The sensor is part of the boot latch.
It is also possible that you are getting a short through the boot hinge wiring which causes the system to think the boot is open.
The boot light will drain the battery in a couple of days.
As for the battery itself I would check it with a good old fashioned multimeter.
If it was completely flat a regular battery charger will not be able to recharge it properly.
If you connect your car to another using jump leads you should get full ignition lights even if there isn't enough oomph to start the car.
Let us know how you get on.
James
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Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208950Bad earths cause so much grief!
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Replied by Cobber on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208954A simple analog type
One of these will quickly pay for itself in the time saved buggerising about. Once you have one you'll wonder how you ever did without one!
You can always drag your battery around to a retail outlet and get them to do a load test for you.
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Replied by Airportable on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208958Like Cobb’s I wouldn’t be without it & again it saved me it’s cost with the first series of tests on some very special batteries.
The boot wiring loom is frequently mentioned as a cause of electrical mysteries, it’s the poltergeist in the boot; all is well & then it’s not & you’re chasing all sorts of faults. Then the insidious little bastard takes a holiday & it’s fine again.
It won’t rest on its laurels on its return.
Grafting some fresh wires in will take a few hours of irritation but save days of infuriation.
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Replied by Cobber on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208962"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"
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Replied by sludge on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208964Just to touch on a few things that were mentioned/suggested, in regards to door switches and lights etc, I was able to rule those out on the first day, when I still had power. By simply latching them I could see the interior lights go off, as well as the boot light going off so if the battery is genuinely dead (which I don't think it is) then it won't have been because of a light draining the battery.
Similarly, when I first tried to use jump leads from another working car, I still had zero ignition lights. It was as if the key just wasn't doing anything. I'm still optimistic that it's going to be something relatively easy to resolve, but I'm also expecting it to be a problem that plagues this car forever, which would suck as I intend to daily it.
Edit: some talk about earth bolts, this is something I'm wanting to follow further, I just need to find a guide of all the known earth points on the MG TF.
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Posted 1 month 4 days ago #208968Maybe this thread could help you: https://www.the-t-bar.com/forum/roverlike-s-guides/97850-mg-f-tf-earth-points-locations-guideEdit: some talk about earth bolts, this is something I'm wanting to follow further, I just need to find a guide of all the known earth points on the MG TF.
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