MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Replied by PipL on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202662there was the two lamp plugs that fitted correctly, then a ground to the inner wing, next came the under dash wiring following Roverlikes diagram to the letter. I still have part of the loom as I wanted to keep the plugs to use again. the loom I assume was fitted by a dealer but there are no labels on it to say so but looked very professional make up.
It came with a 20a inline fuse ( still intact ) and the relay with markings, 20 200 100 12v 30a and the diagram showing contacts open.
It didnt have a switch but i had a couple of spares so was good, or so i thought as today i looked for the original one i used but must have binned it as it was a write off but looked at the others, I have 2 yug102590pmp but one shows the on the button a front fog light and the other a rear screen heater and 1 yug102570pmp showing a front fog on the button so im wondering if the body was wrong on the melted one as i would have just looked at the button.
I havent checked to see if the lamps worked still but will check now.
I cant remember if the switch plug was difficult to fit or not as it was last year.
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Replied by PipL on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
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Replied by Airportable on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202664One point which might be salient is switch type. My car is Mk1 with Mk1 switches which when factory fit fogs we’re installed had a latching switch, at some point in production a momentary switch was fitted, one of which I acquired in error for my system (all after market) & I built a latching circuit to switch the lamps. I changed it to latching later but only because one fell of the back of a wagon.
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Replied by Roverlike on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202668I checked switches yug102590pmp and yug102570pmp and basicaly they would do the same thing. So I am not blaming them. As I can see the wires melted on the relay it seems that relay melted its inners and as consequence joined the coil terminals so switch was short circuited as well.
This would draw me to conclusion that when switch was pressed relay connected high power terminals, but for some reason other high power terminal was connected to the ground. So short circuit was created.
What bothers me is that in-line fuse stayed intact. I do wonder to which wire this fuse is connected then?
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Replied by Notanumber on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #2026692003 TF 135 sunstorm
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Replied by Roverlike on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202670Fuse is not burnt since there was no short circuit on the hign power circuit, just burnt high power wires because coil terminals were shorted.
However I would expect that fuse for illumination must be burnt due to this, in the fusebox under steering wheel.
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Replied by PipL on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202678I have pulled the relay case off to look inside and as you can see its perfectly intact with no signs of burning which is a shame as it would have made lots of sense, ( a dead short ) but going through the coil, on testing it i get 65.7ohms through pins 85 & 86 which is across the coil then open circuit on pins 87 & 30 & then a dead short when the contacts closed. however, checking the resistance of the coil again, i get the same reading closed or open but as you close the relay i get an audible tone of continuity just for a nano second but doesnt show that on the LCD display.
Also is the switch supposed to be latching or not .
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Replied by Roverlike on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202679If the relay is normaly open relay, then you need latching switch. Fuse on thick brown wire should be between direct connection to car battery and relay then.
At that moment you hear continuity on relay coil is the moment when you have short circuit in coil circuit.
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Replied by PipL on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202680The thick brown wire with inline fuse was connected to the terminal in the fusebox as in your diagram.
I have another fog switch that is a latching one but alas no part numbers on it but looks the same as the other 590's
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Replied by Cobber on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 year 3 months ago #202690It’s possible that it might just have been a shitty loom.
"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"
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Replied by PipL on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 week 3 days ago #208556ok so now I have managed to sort a replacement loom from a mk1 car with a mk1 consol. As I mentioned before, I have a mk1 car with a mk2 consol (still with me ).
ok so the loom has everything on it that worked ok on the car. But I need to swap the mk1 switch with a mk2 switch and of course it’s not a direct swap.
on the mk1 connector to the switch is 5 wires as per picture, I don’t know if this configuration would be the same for the mk2 switch, if it is can I simply heath robinson the connector to fit.
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Replied by Roverlike on topic MG F/TF Front Fogs - Parts, Wiring Diagram, Installation Guides
Posted 1 week 3 days ago #208557Second it is extremly hard for me to say anything with 5 wires to the switch you have in your hand without knowing what each wire is connected to on the other end.
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