Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
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Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209017I'm not a chap...I'm a bloke....we don't do chaps in Oz!
Mind you, up in Oxford Street Sydney there are plenty of blokes that do chaps.....but that's another matter entirely!
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In the green sylvan paradise that is Cumbria, we refer to someone of the masculine gender as a Gadgie.
and a less than attractive person of the female gender as a buwer.🤣
David
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Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209023
A friend who was native to Keswick would use those endearing terms, I’d know him for some time before I realised their true significance.
One aside about my friend Miles was his method of poaching pheasants; silent & wholly successful.
Bird seed I abundance on a wire mesh grid, pair of long wires & an electronic inverter would up to fifteen. Watch from a distance, through binoculars & then press the button.
The bird would be part plucked part drawn & part cooked.
God bless you Miles.
M
One aside about my friend Miles was his method of poaching pheasants; silent & wholly successful.
Bird seed I abundance on a wire mesh grid, pair of long wires & an electronic inverter would up to fifteen. Watch from a distance, through binoculars & then press the button.
The bird would be part plucked part drawn & part cooked.
God bless you Miles.
M
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Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209026
Update, and hopefully the last I need to make.
This morning I went out to the car and got everything open and out for me to get to work on the loom. I'd left the battery out of the car all night, so once I had my tools and stuff out, I was curious to see what the tester would show. Tester showed 9.9V, ok not where it should be but at least it's not giving me problems like it was before. I then decided to put the charger back on to see if it was still being dumb, and to my surprise instead of saying 100% and turning itself off, it showed it was between 75% and 100% and then proceeded to start charging the battery, result!
So, whilst that charged for a bit, I got to work on the loom. Like I said yesterday, I needed the car to be usable today and tomorrow and so I was only doing a temporary fix for now until the other stuff I need arrives during the week. After about 2, maybe 2 and a half hours, I connected the last cable. My hands were sore given the huge lack of space in that area, and with the cables having no slack at all you're at the mercy of how little room there is. I'd removed the boot off the hinge temporarily to bring the loom to the other side to make it easier. Once done, I got in the car with the key and held my breath as I waited to see if that was the only thing I needed to fix.
I put the key in and turned it, nothing. No lights, no sounds. Then, in the corner of my eye, I saw the stupid battery still sat there in the garage on charge! My mistake out of the way, I put the battery in, and as soon as I heard the little spark of the negative terminal touching, I knew I was getting somewhere. Back in the car, ignition on and we were a go.
I tidied everything back up, got the loom back on the correct side of the hinge and tightened that back up before taking her for a little drive just to make sure the power wasn't going to vanish over the first bump. Everything went well, and after a stop at McDonalds for lunch, all was ok.
Next week I'll have to remove it all again anyway to do a more permanent fix still I suspect, but I'm happy and I'm thankful for all the advice and input everyone had on this thread. It's this sort of engagement and community that keeps these cars alive.
This morning I went out to the car and got everything open and out for me to get to work on the loom. I'd left the battery out of the car all night, so once I had my tools and stuff out, I was curious to see what the tester would show. Tester showed 9.9V, ok not where it should be but at least it's not giving me problems like it was before. I then decided to put the charger back on to see if it was still being dumb, and to my surprise instead of saying 100% and turning itself off, it showed it was between 75% and 100% and then proceeded to start charging the battery, result!
So, whilst that charged for a bit, I got to work on the loom. Like I said yesterday, I needed the car to be usable today and tomorrow and so I was only doing a temporary fix for now until the other stuff I need arrives during the week. After about 2, maybe 2 and a half hours, I connected the last cable. My hands were sore given the huge lack of space in that area, and with the cables having no slack at all you're at the mercy of how little room there is. I'd removed the boot off the hinge temporarily to bring the loom to the other side to make it easier. Once done, I got in the car with the key and held my breath as I waited to see if that was the only thing I needed to fix.
I put the key in and turned it, nothing. No lights, no sounds. Then, in the corner of my eye, I saw the stupid battery still sat there in the garage on charge! My mistake out of the way, I put the battery in, and as soon as I heard the little spark of the negative terminal touching, I knew I was getting somewhere. Back in the car, ignition on and we were a go.
I tidied everything back up, got the loom back on the correct side of the hinge and tightened that back up before taking her for a little drive just to make sure the power wasn't going to vanish over the first bump. Everything went well, and after a stop at McDonalds for lunch, all was ok.
Next week I'll have to remove it all again anyway to do a more permanent fix still I suspect, but I'm happy and I'm thankful for all the advice and input everyone had on this thread. It's this sort of engagement and community that keeps these cars alive.
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Replied by Cobber on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209027
Good to se you're getting results!
"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"
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Replied by TA22GT on topic Dead battery following alarm/electrical oddities
Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209028
"then out of the corner of my eye I saw the stupid battery still sat there in the garage on charge"
Those are the best mistakes because you know instantly what the fault is!! Well done mate...the guys on here pointed you in the right direction and you got through it.
Brilliant outcome.
Those are the best mistakes because you know instantly what the fault is!! Well done mate...the guys on here pointed you in the right direction and you got through it.
Brilliant outcome.
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Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209032
Right, you are now the “go to” man on boot wiring & you’ve been a member for how long?
There you go, just get on with the jobs that require attention, as you’ve seen there are lots of folk who are happy to help, what could possibly go wrong?
Oh! Possibly sparks, a bit of smouldering, possibly a flame, a flame spreading to a petrol soaked rag, nothing more serious.
We’ll not after the fire brigade has gone & you’ve looked at the insurance small print.
NO I’m only ribbing you, but it illustrates what could happen if you don’t concentrate on the job in hand & constantly.
M
There you go, just get on with the jobs that require attention, as you’ve seen there are lots of folk who are happy to help, what could possibly go wrong?
Oh! Possibly sparks, a bit of smouldering, possibly a flame, a flame spreading to a petrol soaked rag, nothing more serious.
We’ll not after the fire brigade has gone & you’ve looked at the insurance small print.
NO I’m only ribbing you, but it illustrates what could happen if you don’t concentrate on the job in hand & constantly.
M
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Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209042
Disconnecting the bottom plastic fixing on the hinge allows for more movement of the loom.
David
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Posted 2 months 1 week ago #209122
Hi all. I'm a bit late to the party discussion on this subject but if I could just add. I used to work in the motor industry on DAF trucks. DAF trucks I hear you say , how is that going to be relevant. Well in wiring terms it is very similar, as the designers of DAF wiring looms many years ago decided to encase all the wires on the chassis in flexible plastic trunking which in practise sounds good . Until the said truck gets a few thousand miles on its back and the vibration from the road and engine / transmission shakes the loom to the point where the wire shaking against the hard plastic convoluted trunking got rubbed away , baring the copper wire until it breaks. Add to this the salt on the roads in winter and you get an avalanche of electrical gremlins. In one particular case I remember a DAF 75 where the driver reported that every time he put the R/H indicator on the A/B/S light illuminated! I have personally changed dozens of looms on trucks where several single strands of wire had just rubbed away inside the protective plastic trunking.
I have a TF ( 05) plate which I have owned for 9 years . One of the first things I checked when I bought it was the boot hinge loom which turned out to be fine when I pulled the wires from the trunking. The first clip on the boot hinge had not been fitted so I think being a late registered TF I think it likely that this had been done on the track at Longbridge. I sprayed a liberal amount of silicone lubricant down the trunking to help the wires slide inside when opening and closing the boot.
John
I have a TF ( 05) plate which I have owned for 9 years . One of the first things I checked when I bought it was the boot hinge loom which turned out to be fine when I pulled the wires from the trunking. The first clip on the boot hinge had not been fitted so I think being a late registered TF I think it likely that this had been done on the track at Longbridge. I sprayed a liberal amount of silicone lubricant down the trunking to help the wires slide inside when opening and closing the boot.
John
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