TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Hi,

I have been asked to install front fog lights to a 1.6 2005 TF and wondered how easy/hard it mught be? 

I can see that the front fog light switch in the centre console (far left in the bank of switches) and I can see it has a connector. I can see there is a small relay in place where I'd expect to see one and there are wires coming out of the back. 

So does this mean that it is likely that all the cabling is in place and that I would just need to source and fit the l8ghts themselves? Has anybody had experienced fitting front fogs to a 1.6? 

Thank you.

The easiest method would be to look if you have connectors for front fogs behind front bumper and by multimeter see if you have power on them when switch is pressed.

Thanks for your reply.
I didn't see any connectors by the front bumper
So it's likely I will need to feed some wires from somewhere down to the bumper I guess. If there is wiring from the switch and relay in place, where would I need to connect the wires from the bumper to?

That fog light switch you have might be fro the rear fog lights , there needs to be a separate switch for the front foglights.
is the connection plug green? if so it's for the front or is it blue? in which case it's for the rear, better still press it and see if it works the rears

Hi. It's a green one. The blue is connected to the rear fog lights, the next switch across is for the heated rear window, and the one on the far left I assume is for front fogs. The switch, connector, wires, relay, fuse, etc are present. Only the fog lights aren't there. Just blanking covers. A quick look underneath the bumper hasn't shown any wires/plugs though.
So before I take the bumper off, I wondered if anybody has retro fitted fog lights on a 1.6?

No that's OK I was just checking that you weren't wandering on the wrong path.
Well you will have to add any missing wiring ( sorry that I'm stating the obvious here , but it's for the benefit of those who might be reading this in the future )
You are best to consult the workshop manual wiring diagram for a comparison to establish exactly how much of the wiring you actually have and what you still require.
You can download the TF manual from the library section of this forum.
Alas in the last days of MG Rover production there was some kayos and they may have used parts of higher spec looms on lesser spec car because they had run out of the ed and the higher spec looms is what they had laying about at hand in the factory, there is no way of knowing exactly what your car has without physically checking.

That aside you will require the plastic mounts to fit the lights in the bumper, and will still need to activate the BCU to inform it that the fog lights are fitted with a T4 Test Book, or a Pscan diagnostic unit ( this last bit about the Pscan needs confirmation, as I can't remember If Phil has got around to adding this feature to his excellent Psan diagnostic tool yet.
But I do recall it being on his to do wish list)
It may be possible to do a work around that could bypass the BCU, but this would involve some custom wiring and using a latching type relay, and the require a fair level of auto electrical skill set.
It's the sort of thing that some members here such as Airportable and others here could do in their sleep but only confuse most, in fact a fair indicator of the skill set required would be if the term latching relay is understood.
I'm not trying to be a smartarse (It comes naturally to me...it's a gift!) I just don't know what level of skills you, or anyone else reading this might have.

I strongly suspect that if the switch and relay are in situ, the wiring to the lamps themselves will also be there. Probably tied back onto the wiring loom, in the area of the lamp positions.

I was quite surprised all the wiring that was present on my 2002 1.6, Tweeters, rear speakers, electric mirrors, all just taped up out of the way

I had also noticed that tweeters, rear speaker wires etc are also present that made me think that may be it's just a case of getting the lamps and fittings.
I guess I need to remove the bumper and check for the wires being tired back somewhere. Maybe I'll get Lucky.
The only thing to think about is the bcu thingy.
Thanks

Notanumber wrote:

I was quite surprised all the wiring that was present on my 2002 1.6, Tweeters, rear speakers, electric mirrors, all just taped up out of the way

That's good to read. I have no tweeters fitted but maybe the wiring is there
 

Whether or not any extra wiring is present seems to be fairly random , my car had no such extra unused speaker wiring

Latterly all auto wiring was fully populated as it was cheaper in cable & connectors than to produce different looms for each model. 10k of one pattern with all facilities is cheaper to produce than 2k of each for a five model range. One will be more popular than another so you don’t end up being short of one & a bucket load of another.
Like Cobber, I didn’t have t-bar speaker wiring but I would have no problem fitting the electrics on an aircon system.
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