TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

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Replied by Cobber on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 4 weeks 6 hours ago #209238
No that's OK I was just checking that you weren't wandering on the wrong path.
Well you will have to add any missing wiring ( sorry that I'm stating the obvious here , but it's for the benefit of those who might be reading this in the future )
You are best to consult the workshop manual wiring diagram for a comparison to establish exactly how much of the wiring you actually have and what you still require.
You can download the TF manual from the library section of this forum.
Alas in the last days of MG Rover production there was some kayos and they may have used parts of higher spec looms on lesser spec car because they had run out of the ed and the higher spec looms is what they had laying about at hand in the factory, there is no way of knowing exactly what your car has without physically checking.

That aside you will require the plastic mounts to fit the lights in the bumper, and will still need to activate the BCU to inform it that the fog lights are fitted with a T4 Test Book, or a Pscan diagnostic unit ( this last bit about the Pscan needs confirmation, as I can't remember If Phil has got around to adding this feature to his excellent Psan diagnostic tool yet.
But I do recall it being on his to do wish list)
It may be possible to do a work around that could bypass the BCU, but this would involve some custom wiring and using a latching type relay, and the require a fair level of auto electrical skill set.
It's the sort of thing that some members here such as Airportable and others here could do in their sleep but only confuse most, in fact a fair indicator of the skill set required would be if the term latching relay is understood.
I'm not trying to be a smartarse (It comes naturally to me...it's a gift!) I just don't know what level of skills you, or anyone else reading this might have.

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 6 days ago #209239
I strongly suspect that if the switch and relay are in situ, the wiring to the lamps themselves will also be there. Probably tied back onto the wiring loom, in the area of the lamp positions.

David
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Replied by Notanumber on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 5 days ago #209265
I was quite surprised all the wiring that was present on my 2002 1.6, Tweeters, rear speakers, electric mirrors, all just taped up out of the way

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Replied by LanderMG on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 5 days ago #209270
I had also noticed that tweeters, rear speaker wires etc are also present that made me think that may be it's just a case of getting the lamps and fittings.
I guess I need to remove the bumper and check for the wires being tired back somewhere. Maybe I'll get Lucky.
The only thing to think about is the bcu thingy.
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Replied by TA22GT on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 5 days ago #209271

I was quite surprised all the wiring that was present on my 2002 1.6, Tweeters, rear speakers, electric mirrors, all just taped up out of the way

That's good to read. I have no tweeters fitted but maybe the wiring is there
 
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Replied by Cobber on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 5 days ago #209276
Whether or not any extra wiring is present seems to be fairly random , my car had no such extra unused speaker wiring

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Replied by Airportable on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 5 days ago #209278
Latterly all auto wiring was fully populated as it was cheaper in cable & connectors than to produce different looms for each model. 10k of one pattern with all facilities is cheaper to produce than 2k of each for a five model range. One will be more popular than another so you don’t end up being short of one & a bucket load of another.
Like Cobber, I didn’t have t-bar speaker wiring but I would have no problem fitting the electrics on an aircon system.
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Replied by TA22GT on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 5 days ago #209279
I have the T bar speakers so you just know I'm going to have to look behind those door cards.
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Replied by Notanumber on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 4 days ago #209298
My money would be on the tweeter wires being present. The wire colours are just the same as for the main speakers: Orange + Orange/Black one side, Yellow + Yellow/Black the other.

Fitting the tweeters was pretty easy. Others on here kindly measured the distance from the top and side, I drew round the inside of the tweeter locxking ring onto the door card, drilled a seies of small holes around the circumference which I then joined up with a knife. At the time Darren was selling original tweeters for £ 4 a pair so I couldnt say no.

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Replied by Airportable on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 4 days ago #209300
I was given a set of JBL speakers & matching tweeters, which, for a car speaker, are surprisingly efficient & they were duly installed. I’m not a great listener to the radio, however Radio 3 we’re playing a Carl Orff concert, I’d forgotten all about the concert & was concentrating on the road, when the thunderous part of Carmina Burana came on & boy did it make me jump.
Not quite a brown out, but enough for me to check later.
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Replied by Notanumber on topic TF 115 1.6 Front Fogs

Posted 3 weeks 4 days ago #209303
I put a mid range set of JBLs in my previous classic car and was really impressed with them. Certainly chalk and cheese compared with the standard fit, early 80's Ford, paper coned speakers they replaced. Im with you on the Carmina Burana, knocks your socks off, especially performed live.

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Posted 3 weeks 4 days ago #209304

Notanumber post=209303 userid=17316I put a mid range set of JBLs in my previous classic car and was really impressed with them. Certainly chalk and cheese compared with the standard fit, early 80's Ford, paper coned speakers they replaced. Im with you on the Carmina Burana, knocks your socks off, especially performed live.

Not being a foot fetishist I don't really care about knocking socks off, but I would find it much more impressive if it had the ability to knock bras n panties off!

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