MG Quiz

Just quickly whilst we wait for someone to answer Tsleight's question, here is an update on the MG Quiz Hall of Fame



The ding dong battle continued between rog1963 and Tsleight with both making good progress. rog1963 has leapfrogged himself into 4^th place. David Aiketgate continues to make steady progress and is now just one point behind Bryan Young who occupies 7^th place.

A special warm welcome goes to imaestrow who joined the MG Quiz winners this week.


To get you back on track here is a copy of the current question, question 196 of the MG Quiz;

Tsleight wrote: 1. Who was the first Private Owner to race at Le Mans and in what?

2. What was his follow-up car and what production model did its design lead towards?

George Phillips (1950) in a MGTC Special Body.
The following year he requested a special 'one off' TD (EX172)
EX 175 (chassis adapted to lower the driver's seat) followed and then EX 182, of which three were entered into the 1955 Le Mans. These prototypes culminated in the MGA

Well done Rog, all yours!

Thank you kind sir.

And now follows an artistic intermission:

A famous painting.

1. Artist? ......................................................
2. Car? ........................................................
3. Driver and Co-Pilot? ...........................
4. Race? .....................................................

rog1963 wrote: George Phillips (1950) in a MGTC Special Body.
The following year he requested a special 'one off' TD (EX172)
EX 175 (chassis adapted to lower the driver's seat) followed and then EX 182, of which three were entered into the 1955 Le Mans. These prototypes culminated in the MGA

The Special body car was a Lester :yesnod:

Well done Rog :woohoo:

Here is a reminder of the current question....

rog1963 wrote: Thank you kind sir.

And now follows an artistic intermission:

A famous painting.

1. Artist? ......................................................
2. Car? ........................................................
3. Driver and Co-Pilot? ...........................
4. Race? .....................................................

Great question rog1963

Ok Rog163, Here I go.

1) Really struggling to find the Artist name! :bang:
2) K3 Magnette
3) Tazio Nouvolari racing (normally associated with Alfa Romeo, with Alec Hounslow as co pilot/mechanic
4) 1933 R.A.C Ulster TT at Ards circuit

Although he broke many class records apparant;y if he hadn't deliberatly missed out a final fuel stop he may have lost to a J4 Midget 750CC driven by a MG dealer Salesman.........can you imagine Jensen finishing his race on Sunday and and turning up for work to sell cars in the show room on Monday morning!!! amazing.

Now for that Artist name....the race is on so to speak!
Although I also need a question, the reason I did not answer David's Bellvue Special question....

Ok, so this is a bit of a guess,

Is 1) the Artist - Debra Wenlock?? if not I am out of ideas and patience!! :rant: :bang: :nonod:

Gadget2466 wrote: Ok Rog163, Here I go.

1) Really struggling to find the Artist name! :bang:
2) K3 Magnette
3) Tazio Nouvolari racing (normally associated with Alfa Romeo, with Alec Hounslow as co pilot/mechanic
4) 1933 R.A.C Ulster TT at Ards circuit

Although he broke many class records apparant;y if he hadn't deliberatly missed out a final fuel stop he may have lost to a J4 Midget 750CC driven by a MG dealer Salesman.........can you imagine Jensen finishing his race on Sunday and and turning up for work to sell cars in the show room on Monday morning!!! amazing.

Now for that Artist name....the race is on so to speak!
Although I also need a question, the reason I did not answer David's Bellvue Special question....

Not Debra Wenlock I'm afraid

Clue: he worked for 'The Motor'
and his father was also an artist

What about BRYAN de GRINEAU (JOHN BRYAN) son of Charles Grineau, who painted under the name Alfred Bryan. ????? :slapme:

The Painting in question used to hang in the MG boardroom at Abingdon

The artist’s name was Bryan de Grineau (born Charles William Grineau) 1883 - 1957, who also went under the alias of John Bryan. More info on him here. http://www.motoringart.info/pdf/deGrineauBryan.pdf
Have a look at the sketch ‘Brake testing at the MG factory 1932’ on page 7. I think it is wonderful.

The car is a 1087-cc. K3 Magnette, which had the preselector planetary self-changing gearbox, operated by a fore-and-aft quadrant on an extension of the gearbox top. Even by modern standards they were phenomenally fast and could have comfortably left a 1961 MG-A.

It is being raced by the Italian driver Tazio Nuvolari, whose moniker was Il Mantovano Volante (The Flying Mantuan) who Ferdinand Porsche described as “The greatest driver of the past, the present, and the future.”
His co-pilot (mechanic) was Alec Hounslow. There is a great piece on the race which makes for interesting reading. Apparently, he hadn’t seen the car until practice day and needed the gearbox explained in sign language and the odd Italian word as he didn’t speak a word of English. Have a read: http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/tt3.htm
He also won the Ards race in 1930 driving an Alfa Romeo.

The Race is the RAC Tourist Trophy (known as Ards TT) and was run in County Down on closed roads encompassing Newtownards, Comber and Dundonald. The race ran from 1928 to 1936 when tragedy struck when Jack Chambers, a Belfast driver, crashed into the crowd killing eight people. The race never ran again.

I borrowed an MG book last night and this picture was the first in the book and I thought it would make an interesting question. i knew nothing about the artist / driver or race. I’ve found the research on this one very interesting and once again it’s led me down some interesting paths. Isn’t the quiz amazing?

Hope you've got that question sorted gadget. Very well done :woohoo:

Oh and here is the artist at work ... dangerous occupation:

Great Question Rog, I saw the brake testing sketch too on the site where I saw John Bryan's name and info, as it was in the the time before the dreaded H&SE It is probably very accurate!!!

The research on it has indeed taken me down some interesting paths and I have found the following question from it. Very interesting....bloody frustrating at times, but very interesting.

I must stock up the MG book library!!!!!!