MG Quiz
In 1948 Reilly left Jowett followed in 1949 by Palmer who returned to Morris where he took up the job of designer of a new range of cars for M.G., Riley and Wolseley. The results of this were the M.G. ZA Magnette and Wolseley 4/44.
Gerald Marley Palmer (January 20, 1911 - June 23, 1999) was a British car designer
so designed about 1949-50
Launched in 1953 at the London Motor show alongside the TF Midget, the MG ZA Magnette was greeted with mixed feelings both by enthusiasts and the motoring press alike
car as per pick dont know
The Wolseley 4/44 preceded the MG ZA Magnette by a year and was launched in 1952. The delay on the MG was to allow the new BMC 'B' Series engine to be fitted along with other newly developed components, whilst the 4/44 had the XPAG series engine handed down from the Y type. Palmer wanted to differentiate between the two cars and did this by making the Wolseley the luxury car and fhe MG the sporting saloon. This was achieved by lowering the MG body by some two inches and changing suspension and shock absorber characteristics. This gave the MG a far more sporting-appearance as well as greatly improved roadhandling. Although basically similar in appearance, in the end many of the bodypanels were different. The only ones common to both cars were the roof, front doors and bootlid. The floor pan, rear doors, rear wings, front wings and sills were all different as was the bonnet arrangement. Each car had its traditional front grille and on the Wolseley this was fixed in the normal fashion with the rear hinged bonnet opening in conventional manner, whilst the Magnette carried the grille affixed to the front bonnet edge. The Magnette was the first MG to be fitted with the all new 'B' series engine. This twin carburettor 1489 cc unit was based on the 1200 cc Austin A40 engine which was first used in 1947, however the new engine was substantially modified and produced a healthy 60 bhp @ 4,600 rpm. This 'B' series engine certainly made the Magnette a good performer and was far quicker than its stablemate, the Wolseley 4/44 powered by the XPAG engine that could only muster 46 bhp @ 4,800 rpm. The Wolseley was also hindered by a non-positive column gear change whilst the Magnette had a new centre floor gear lever in keeping with its sports saloon image. The rear axle was also new and had a torque reaction arm to aid axle location as rubber bushes were used extensively in the suspension mountings to reduce noise, improve the ride quality and reduce maintenance. Suspension was independent at the front with wishbones and coil springs and semi-elliptic springs at the rear. Large 10 inch brakes all round catered for the increased performance.
Gerald Marley Palmer (January 20, 1911 - June 23, 1999) was a British car designer
so designed about 1949-50
Launched in 1953 at the London Motor show alongside the TF Midget, the MG ZA Magnette was greeted with mixed feelings both by enthusiasts and the motoring press alike
car as per pick dont know
The Wolseley 4/44 preceded the MG ZA Magnette by a year and was launched in 1952. The delay on the MG was to allow the new BMC 'B' Series engine to be fitted along with other newly developed components, whilst the 4/44 had the XPAG series engine handed down from the Y type. Palmer wanted to differentiate between the two cars and did this by making the Wolseley the luxury car and fhe MG the sporting saloon. This was achieved by lowering the MG body by some two inches and changing suspension and shock absorber characteristics. This gave the MG a far more sporting-appearance as well as greatly improved roadhandling. Although basically similar in appearance, in the end many of the bodypanels were different. The only ones common to both cars were the roof, front doors and bootlid. The floor pan, rear doors, rear wings, front wings and sills were all different as was the bonnet arrangement. Each car had its traditional front grille and on the Wolseley this was fixed in the normal fashion with the rear hinged bonnet opening in conventional manner, whilst the Magnette carried the grille affixed to the front bonnet edge. The Magnette was the first MG to be fitted with the all new 'B' series engine. This twin carburettor 1489 cc unit was based on the 1200 cc Austin A40 engine which was first used in 1947, however the new engine was substantially modified and produced a healthy 60 bhp @ 4,600 rpm. This 'B' series engine certainly made the Magnette a good performer and was far quicker than its stablemate, the Wolseley 4/44 powered by the XPAG engine that could only muster 46 bhp @ 4,800 rpm. The Wolseley was also hindered by a non-positive column gear change whilst the Magnette had a new centre floor gear lever in keeping with its sports saloon image. The rear axle was also new and had a torque reaction arm to aid axle location as rubber bushes were used extensively in the suspension mountings to reduce noise, improve the ride quality and reduce maintenance. Suspension was independent at the front with wishbones and coil springs and semi-elliptic springs at the rear. Large 10 inch brakes all round catered for the increased performance.
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by MGF MARK
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oooh seem to be on a roll lol
so the next question is errrrrr
ok what is this car
what was it built for
and who built it
and name a compertition it won
good luck
so the next question is errrrrr
ok what is this car
what was it built for
and who built it
and name a compertition it won
good luck
mad about cars and bikes
if it aint broke dont fix it
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by MGF MARK
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Nice find Mark, visited the site in a search on the Lenham Spitfire GT a few months ago.
Put these clues together and you may find Mark's car
What's she called?
Could go here: A place you may have found him there in May
Good luck
Put these clues together and you may find Mark's car
What's she called?
Could go here: A place you may have found him there in May
Good luck
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by PQD44
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tui wrote: Woohoo :woohoo: ! Can't believe I won !
So here goes! My first question is a two-parter:
Who designed the MG ZA Magnette in what year?
What was so special about this car?
Very well done and welcome to the quiz, great answer and good question. now you are hooked you wont be able to stop, you will be able to give Mr F and Paul "a run for their money"
by bryan young
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Few more clues to Marks Question;
The car was built the same year Prince Ranier of Monaco married Grace Kelly
The car like a challenge and has been here a few times
Roger of Chevron, converted a pair, the other one was a 1958 model.
The car was built the same year Prince Ranier of Monaco married Grace Kelly
The car like a challenge and has been here a few times
Roger of Chevron, converted a pair, the other one was a 1958 model.
by PQD44
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where is mr forgetfull id thought hed have the answer by now
the car has FIA papers most mgs never made it to fia status
the car has FIA papers most mgs never made it to fia status
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by MGF MARK
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Mr F is off on his holidays so will be away from the quiz for a while.
Mark are you sure of the competition win, I too was unable to locate it.
Mark are you sure of the competition win, I too was unable to locate it.
by PQD44
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MGF MARK wrote: oooh seem to be on a roll lol
so the next question is errrrrr
ok what is this car
what was it built for
and who built it
and name a compertition it won
good luck
This one has been quite difficult! Next time I won't be including any names of cars for clues...!
There are a couple of bits I can't answer but here goes...
The car is a 1956 MG ZA Magnette called "Emma."
The Magnette ZA was launched in 1953 and production ceased in 1956, when the ZA was superseded by the ZB. The Magnette was designed by Gerald Palmer.
It was designed for the home market with 4 seats and 4 doors, but 2 were race-prepared by Roger and Judy Anderson.
It was built by Roger Anderson of Shevron Cars. Only 2 of these race-prepared Magnettes were built.
I too cannot find any reference to it winning a challenge/competition, but the car has participated in numerous Monte Carlo challenges and as previously mentioned is one of the very few MG Magentte competition cars to have FIA papers. It is also one of the very few MG Magnettes that is eligible for invitation to the Mille Miglia and the Goodwood St. Mary's trophy.
The car "Emma" is now owned by Wattinne Patrice and lives in France.
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by tui
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