MG T-Bar Quiz

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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67868
Righto, what is the MG link to this car

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88 MG Metro Turbo
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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67872
There must be a deeper link than the obvious one that this was on sale around the same time as the MG ZT 260 which like the Holden had a V8 with rear wheel drive and both were similarly priced? Is there some link with Peter Stevens being the designer of the MkII Z range and Peter Stevens dealership in Australia selling these?

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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67874
That's not a Holden...

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87 MG Metro: 1440cc fast road car
88 MG Metro Turbo
70 MG Midget: 1.9L VVC + supercharger + RWD = YEEHAA!
72 MGBGT: Project Speed 6 MGB
05 MG ZT-T 260: wife's sensible car
01 MG ZS 180: LHD, for driving around Germany in

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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67882
Doh! Now I look it's a Ford of course! I should know I have hired one in Sydney!

So it shares the same V8 engine as the ZT 260 single cam or the MG SV twin cam?
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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67883
Bruce, that's not a Holden, but the correct continent.

I reckon it is the Ford Falcon BA XR8, fitted with a Ford 5.4 litre Boss 260 Modular V8 engine.

There are two MG links to the engine, or previous versions of the same engine family.

MG X-Power SV which used a 32-valve DOHC 4.6 L V8 version and the
MG ZT which used a 16-valve SOHC 4.6 L V8 version

The MG SV used the same number of valves so I'll go with that :dry:
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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67884
:rant: Aaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhh :slapme:

That bloomin Martin popped in a fraction of a second before me :bang: I should have given the short answer, that'll teach me not to be thorough. :lol:

Martin I hate you :P
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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67885
It was a close run thing, I had just got back in! Sorry... :( Assuming we're right, that is...
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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67886
Yep PQD you are right, Martin beat you to it ;)

However yes, you're more correct in that they don't technically share the same engine as any MG, but the same family (the Falcon was the only car to get the 5.4 quad cam, I think). The engine in the ZT is quite different, iron block (even though alloy block 2V engines were available, they were more expensive), 2V heads etc. The SV 4.6 is quite similar to the 5.4 V8 in the 'coon, very similar (if not the same) heads and all alloy. Interestingly, even though many many kit cars and other manufacturers have used Ford Modular engines, the ZT is the only non-Ford to use the 2V engine. Not particularly surprising, it is a bit asthmatic at the top.

Interesting engines, Ford wasn't concerned with back-compatibility so parts off a 2005 4V 4.6 engine won't necessarily fit a 2004 4V 4.6... Hell, parts from one factory won't necessarily fit parts from another, for what is in theory the same engine built on the same day...

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98 MGF Abingdon" 285H cams, modded head etc
87 MG Metro: 1440cc fast road car
88 MG Metro Turbo
70 MG Midget: 1.9L VVC + supercharger + RWD = YEEHAA!
72 MGBGT: Project Speed 6 MGB
05 MG ZT-T 260: wife's sensible car
01 MG ZS 180: LHD, for driving around Germany in

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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67899
What link does MG have via Rover with a Polish car company and a Korean car company? Apart from identifying the link, name the specific car companies and for bonus points the actual details of the specific link in each case.
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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67918
In 2002 MG Rover was in talks with the bankrupt Korean manufacturer Daewoo and the Polish Government to take over the Daewoo-FSO car plant at Zeran on the outskirts of Warsaw, Poland.

MG Rover and TATA (formerly Telco) were looking at producing the Indica at the plant



There was also speculation at the time of the plant being used to produce some of the MG Rover models and Daewoo's Matiz, Nubira and Lanos vehicles.

A year later, in 2003 the talks faltered and the deal never went through.
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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67938
Thank flux for that!!

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Replied by MartinW on topic Re: MG T-Bar Quiz

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #67948
As I said, via Rover, so it's pre 2002. You're on the right track with the Polish company, but the Korean company still exists and hasn't had a name change. In fairness, the Korean car in question was only blighted by this link in the Australian models, I think.
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